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SoCalDesertRider

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Posted: 01/15/12 10:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'd just use that F350 dually he just got to tow the trailer with...


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Posted: 01/15/12 11:56am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With the right amount of time, money, and knowledge, you can do about anything.

Looking forward to seeing your progress.


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SoCalDesertRider wrote:

I'd just use that F350 dually he just got to tow the trailer with...

2 separate projects. 2 separate goals. Progress on one when the other is stalled. The T/A is fun, the dually is for work. Besides, I'm still thinking on the wheels and tires for the T/A.
Stock axle width, between the wheels, is 62", and will fit a 275/40R18x9.5 with a +6mm offset. So if I use a 67.5" full-float 8-lug Dana 60, I should be able to run duals for more attention when hitched to the GN. I partly do want a true show-stopper at the big local annual car show. Fitting duals might be fun for that. Use some 205/65R16s or 215/65R16s on those new 6" wheels for the F350?


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SoCalDesertRider wrote:

How's your welding ability for welding thick to thin, out of position, in difficult to reach areas? What process and filler are you intending to use?

I'm competent to spot-weld, but beyond that I have to seek professional help.
By spotting it myself, I can show my pro what I was thinking, and since it is just spots, it's easy to revise if my pro has a better suggestion.
Again, I'm not trying to use this car for real towing. I have pickup trucks for that. Just a fun build, and so far I really am having fun.

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"My immediate reaction is - WHY?"

My immediate reaction to THAT questions is:
WHY NOT?

Of course, the answer to the WHY question is: Because he wants to and is not afraid to!


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It is funny you posted this. I was going to put a similar post asking what happened to cars that could tow.
I remember a girl I dated in high school. Her dad towed a ridiculously huge boat and also had an Airstream. Towed with a 1973 Ford LTD 429 c.i. I think the rear end ratio was in the 5s.

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yloshrk wrote:

It is funny you posted this. I was going to put a similar post asking what happened to cars that could tow.
I remember a girl I dated in high school. Her dad towed a ridiculously huge boat and also had an Airstream. Towed with a 1973 Ford LTD 429 c.i. I think the rear end ratio was in the 5s.
Factory stock, that LTD likely had an axle ratio in the mid-2's or maybe high-2's.

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whisperide wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:

How's your welding ability for welding thick to thin, out of position, in difficult to reach areas? What process and filler are you intending to use?

I'm competent to spot-weld, but beyond that I have to seek professional help.
By spotting it myself, I can show my pro what I was thinking, and since it is just spots, it's easy to revise if my pro has a better suggestion.
Again, I'm not trying to use this car for real towing. I have pickup trucks for that. Just a fun build, and so far I really am having fun.
Sounds good. Do yourself and your welder a favor and ask him to give you detailed instructions on how he wants each of the weld areas prepped/ground before you tack it together. Once it's all tacked up, there is very little chance of being able to do a proper weld prep to his liking.

This includes beveling any of the thicker plates to create the desired joint size/shape, grinding edge shapes for proper fit-up, grinding surface protrusions to limit unwanted joint gaps, as well as removal of paint, rust, sealer, etc that can contaminate the weld.

As a welder who often does work on customer's half-done projects, I always prefer to do my own prep work. It is rare that a customer will truly understand what is needed and do it on their own. It's harder for me to fix what someone else has already done wrong, than to just do it how I want it myself from the get-go.

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SoCalDesertRider wrote:

yloshrk wrote:

It is funny you posted this. I was going to put a similar post asking what happened to cars that could tow.
I remember a girl I dated in high school. Her dad towed a ridiculously huge boat and also had an Airstream. Towed with a 1973 Ford LTD 429 c.i. I think the rear end ratio was in the 5s.
Factory stock, that LTD likely had an axle ratio in the mid-2's or maybe high-2's.


This was a special order. I don't know what it was, but I know it tached out in 1st gear at about 15 mph.

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As a Retired Engineer, I am looking forward to seeing your finished project.


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