I don't have the latest edition with me right now, but if I remember correctly it was something like "... amenities suck as ..." instead of I'm assuming " ... amenities such as ...". When reading the ad I had remembered all the troubles you were having and couldn't help but feel for you after waiting for a new RV and then putting up with all those issues.
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Dune Hauler wrote: Ron, I can tell you a super C will outperform a V10, from my own experience my International 7500 4X4 puller with a 22,000 lb. trailer in tow would get 8.5mpg for our desert runs, which have many steep grades. As my wife says it’s uphill both directions and we always have a headwind. I tried a Winnebago 26QP (which would allow me a 5,000lb tow rate) and found I was cramped overloaded and got 5.5mpg towing. Now I have a Dynamax 34XV and after 3 trips towing get 9.5mpg and 2 trips not towing and less grades I got 11mpg. The nice thing about a super C is you don’t have to worry about overloading it we carry 200 gallons of fresh water, firewood for a week, tools, gas and supplies and still have room for more. I will also add we don't get blown all over the place and have much better braking capacity.
I'm surprised at the MPG you got with the Ford. We have a 2011 Itasca Impulse 26QP and are averaging around 8.2 with a high of almost 9 and a low of about 7.8 - all depending on headwinds. We tow a 2011 Escape and it handles it very well.
Our previous Super C was a Jayco gasser on Kodiak (32SS) and it averaged 7.6 mpg. It would get 8.5 if we were not towing and kept the speed at 55 and it would drop to 6 or even a bit less with heavy head winds.
The 2011 model E450 has a GCWR of 22,000 lbs but to use more than 5,000 lbs you'd have to get the receiver upgraded. DW finds the Impulse is quieter than our Jayco - but my feeling is that they are about the same - even with the extra 400 rpm at 60 mph.
The Ford is a lot easier to have serviced. Very few GM dealers would touch the Jayco whereas all the Ford dealers in our area will service the Impulse. I had the six month oil change, filer and lube done last week and they even let me buy their 5 oil change/filter/lube package for $99 - which covers the next two years.
On the quality front, we seem to have gotten lucky for once. The impulse is head and shoulders over our Jayco. One small issue fixed on delivery and nothing in the subsequent 18 months. On the other hand, the 2004 Journey we had was a disaster - punch list got longer every time we took it out. We have been exceptionally pleased with the Impulse and our only regret is that we can't use it more often.
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dleslie, If you have been to California you know the Cajon Pass ,Grapevine and Antelope Valley Fwy are nothing but grades up and down.
My Winnebago was modified with 2 extra water tanks and was loaded to the breaking point, I would never say it wasn't good RV it just didn't like my heavy right foot and fit my needs.
Dune Hauler wrote: dleslie, If you have been to California you know the Cajon Pass ,Grapevine and Antelope Valley Fwy are nothing but grades up and down.
My Winnebago was modified with 2 extra water tanks and was loaded to the breaking point, I would never say it wasn't good RV it just didn't like my heavy right foot and fit my needs.
How were your weights vs the GVWR of 14,500 and the GCWR of 20,000 or 22,000 (depending on when made)?
I will tell you we were north of the 22,000 on the way out loaded, due to the fact it is difficult to find water in the desert or on the way (that would be safe to drink). Unloaded and not hauling equipment I did get 8.5mpg on a trip to San Diego, We did like the Winnnebago and felt the quality was better than most, I just want to error on the side of safety.
Dune Hauler wrote: I will tell you we were north of the 22,000 on the way out loaded, due to the fact it is difficult to find water in the desert or on the way (that would be safe to drink). Unloaded and not hauling equipment I did get 8.5mpg on a trip to San Diego, We did like the Winnnebago and felt the quality was better than most, I just want to error on the side of safety.
I had the feeling you were overloaded and may have exceeded the GVWR as well. I'm surprised you tried the 26QP given your other toys.
The size of the 26QP (almost 28 ft) is ideal for our current use. Handling is better than I expected but in high winds it will move around (as do all the 19 wheelers) and I might add a Steer Safe. Ride is good with the airbags adding to it and I wish I'd put airbags on my Kodiak when I bought it in 2007.
When we looked at the 26QP just after it was introduced I too was surprised at the quality given our experience with our 39W Journey - which was a constant headache.
If I were hauling a lot of weight around I'd definitely look at the Dynamax line that you have. That is what I call a "real" hauler.
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