Ford Man wrote: You are just jealous that Chevrolet doesn't have a beast like this in a 1/2 ton truck to tow with.
eye8Ubutler wrote: I cannot help smiling when I read the 'tow vehicle' forum.
Firstly there are thousands of posts that rightly advise that when considering weight ratios TT to TV, always allow for some 'spare capacity.'
Now we have a culture growing re. the Ecoboost engine strength that is advising the opposite in terms of 'spare engine strength' when towing a TV?
These Ecoboost (only 3.5L) engines are useless without the TURBO when towing.
So that inherently means that the turbo is probably running at near 100% output most of the time the TV is pulling a TT.
I predict that this time next year on this forum.........
'Read all about it......Ecoboosts Turbos begin to fail!'
I await the first posting on here, of how some one limped along over hills and down dales with a FAILED TURBO and a 3.5L engine struggling to get them home????
Hard to be jealous for a product anybody can buy. Just my thinking.
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I`m still waiting for the turbo in my Excursion to fail. it tows really good at 72 mph, has no issue passing other trucks/RV`s up a hill. in fact I have yet to hear the turbo spool up! now that I think about it maybe my turbo has failed! I can only imagine how much better it would tow with a good turbo!
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nohurry wrote: My, my, my! NINE pages of rants all started by the OP's stupid baseless prediction. This forum has cured me of any brand bashing, except maybe a small joke here and there. Thank God we have choices. And I wish everyone happiness with their choosen brand/size of TV!
IMHO Ford designed the EB to satisfy the CAFE standards of the guvment, and still have the power to do a trucks work. If you want to return to the days of NA huge cubic inch (remember that term?) motors then vote for Ron Paul, he'll de-regulate everything! Uh oh, please don't start a political debate in this thread I was only joking! Face it, so far the EB has done what it is supposed to. Will it last 200K?
I agree, I May buy one when they get 150-200k on them. Lol.
I wanted a 97 F150 body style truck for well over a decade. I had to wait 10 years but I managed to purchase last spring.
Right now I would like to have a 250/2500 gasser but I have to stay committed to my personal code of ethics. No financing toys. Lol.
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Quote: T&P, in another thread you claim to be brand neutral and pick on any brand that has had issues and point these issues out so buyers considering that particular engine dont get stung?
Why then are you spending so much time pointing out things that have not happened yet with the Ford 3.5 EcoBoost?
Its obvioue that you are hoping this thing has isssues down the road. To date I doubt you can find and link to any real issue. (something that has happend a few times and may become a problem)
I know you are looking hard but have you found it?
My post above was to point out that be carefull how much you bash the idea of direct injected/boosted/small engines cause likely your brand of choice will eventually end up there also.
"Things that have not happened to the EB?" ROTFLMAO believe me, you have no idea what you are talking about or have your eyes closed because of brand loyalty.
So all of these things are a figment of all of these posters imagination? Nothing to see here, just made up stuff from Ford owners.
Looking hard? LMAO Just keep your head in the sand and your fingers in your ears and keep saying la la la la.......
I guess there are some that don't want to admit there are many tuning problems with this engine let alone long term valve problems that DI engines have. With your way of thinking all of these Ecoboost owners are just whiners. After all, there are no common problems with this engine and all is well.
As far as "my brand" making a DI engine. At this point in time most all DI engines are having valve problems; not just Ford. BMW, VW, Ford and more; they all are having problems. This is an inherent design problem and not a Ford only problem."
Now go on and post that there may be some problems, but very few, and they will be taken care of with Fords warrenty. You remember, the same warrenty that was going to take care of Ric's fuel pump problem.
Ya, you linked me to exactly what the OP said would happen...blown turbos...
Come on, why bring diesel issues to this gas engine thread?
I ask again, where is all the blown up EcoBoosts????: ?
Sounds like some programing issues have to get sorted out for sure in the link you posted but don't see any mechanical problems that would scare me off..
What kind of tow rig do you run anyway? No info but I bet 100-1 its no Ford.
That link was to a 2 page thread with only 1 post on page 2..
here is that post
I have 22,000 miles on my 11 EB with no problems at all. It has 3.73 with heavy tow option and 4x4. It will get 19mpg empty at 70 and 12mpg towing a 5000 lb trailer through mountains and flat, 10 mpg pulling 22 ft car trailer at 7000lbs. All towing at or below 65 mph. Traded a 09 duramax on it and haven't been sorry.
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Ya, real major Ecoboost issues..
Keep looking, you may find something real to link yet.
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edited 01/29/12 04:57pm by v10superduty *
OK before the lock comes out lets get a few things stright shell we.
1: Direct Injection is OLD NEWS.....OMG no tell me it's not true! Yep all you guys thinking you have the latest and greatest....worng. So sorry to bust your tiny bubble. This "wonder of technology" has been over in Europe for years now. Fiat has it and yes it will be coming to a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep near you very soon.
2: why anyone would spend $65K on a 1/2 ton experiment just boggles my mind. But as someone pointed out to me "why do you care".....I don't it just baffles me. But it is your money so gamble away, I love to play Hold'em and I sure there are some that think I'm nuts also.
3: Given Fords track record on turning their back on their customers that's one gamble I would never take. Had Ford came out and said yep we didn't take into account the poor diesel fuel in North America so we are going to change our pump and will upgrade all of the trucks
out on the road. Then people would say good job Ford.
It's how you treat your customer that matters and with that I have to say some of you sure are a loyal bunch. Myself, after owning five Ford lemons that was enough for me.
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v10superduty wrote: Ya, you linked me to exactly what the OP said would happen...blown turbos...
Come on, why bring diesel issues to this gas engine thread?
I ask again, where is all the blown up EcoBoosts????: ?
Sounds like some programing issues have to get sorted out for sure in the link you posted but don't see any mechanical problems that would scare me off..
What kind of tow rig do you run anyway? No info but I bet 100-1 its no Ford.
If you would have read this whole thread I questioned the OP about the turbo issue on page 3 post 6. Check it out, the post is still there.
When have I said the EB's were blowing up? Oh that's right I never did. They have many other problems that I have already listed. Turbo's is not one of them.
Diesel issues? What are you talking about? You have no idea what you are talking about or you never read the provided link. It's about DI engines with valve carbon problems. So you really see no mechanical problems with 1/8" thick or more carbon on the intake valve? LOL Last time I checked the Ecoboost was not a diesel engine.
You, are correct about the tow rig but incorrect about the everything else. I crew on two different race teams. Both Ford engines, tranny's and rear ends.
Since your posting things in the thread let me also:
I am also having the same issues as others in the thread. I was told by the dealer as well that there are no codes. There is definitely an issue with the ecoboost and I am concerned for the safety of my family as well as myself. I am also concerned with the effects these flaws will have on the longevity of the motor and trans. I have gotten better gas mileage in tow haul mode both highway and city, I would suggest that you see if this effects your gas mileage as well. I am going to see if the dealership will get me out of this truck and into something else without having to file a lawsuit. Class Action anyone? I paid to much for this vehicle to be having these issues, which are not even being addressed.
Still sound like no issues to you?
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hone eagle wrote: You would think all the bad ones are dead and buried by now
Filter of time and all.......
You woul think so, but a friend just bought a used one he was thrilled to find a low mileage 2005or6 (I think) diesel, just 85k on it. 6.0l We all know why its got low miles, but I couldn't convince him.
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Everybody keeps touting the f150 sakes figures - keep in mind that every single Yugo that was ever imported was sold. 100% sales record for a vehicle that could not tow any RV. Hummm
There are statistics and there are lies about stats and there are stats that lie. Asking somebody who just dropped $40,000 into a 1/2 ton truck, if "they really like it and does it do what you expected?" is pointless. Nobody will be POed enough at this early point in the EBs life to admit that ford made another lemon. YET. That day WILL come.
We'll know it when you start seeing 15,000 mile f150 EBs flooding the used truck lots as people who were sold them believing they could do the job of a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. People who find out that a 1/2 ton truck is not a heavy duty truck. Who will find out that when the little truck is hooked to a 7000lb TT loaded for a week camping, with the family in the truck, gas in the tank and a four wheeler in the bed (an easy load for a 3/4 or 1 ton), they suddenly get 5-6mpg and take a half mile or more to get to 65mph, and more important - if they have to slam on the brakes, its like the brakes aren't even there. They can't figure out why the tranny just blew - and if the dealers service dept is on the bal (most aren’t) they'll say its abuse and refuse to cover it under warranty.
Every month here on RV.net we read the posts of the families just starting out and they go out the a dealer and a salesman who knows nothing about RVing sells them a 1/2 ton because its "a real truck", "see the pretty pictures?". Then they come on here and ask why they can't pull a 20,000 5ver over the mountains. "The shiny advertising flyer at the dealship had a cover showing their new truck with that very 5ver on it".
As soon as somebody gently points out that the weight limits are listed for a reason, twenty trolls jump in and any chance to help the guy is gone as they tell him to go ahead, pull it; its a XXXX, it can do it. Calling name and giving titles like weight police and such. If I can keep one person from spending as much as I did by buying the wrong equipment by the advice of some people, call me what you will, I will not fudge figures for brand or money.
The EB system is undergoing the biggest field test ever in the truck market place - Take a look at fords truck advertising expenditures on the EB f150 - the most ford has ever spent on one product. They are testing - I'd have no desire to be a lab rat for ford.
hone eagle wrote: You would think all the bad ones are dead and buried by now
Filter of time and all.......
You woul think so, but a friend just bought a used one he was thrilled to find a low mileage 2005or6 (I think) diesel, just 85k on it. 6.0l We all know why its got low miles, but I couldn't convince him.
Read c a r e f u l l y - bad ones, not all of them .come back in 5 years and state how your friends truck is doing.
Plenty out there, hope all the junk has been junked ,leaving only runners
Some people are so blinded by brand loyalty its sad really. Don't get me wrong, every brand had its good points, but here is how it has played out so far
1. Ford (rightfully) touts their new engine as a radical departure from traditional truck thinking. Making more power and torque in a lighter weight package.
2. Some people agree that it is the truck to fit their needs and buy one. For their situation truck does well and pulls just fine. Not everybody has a 4 billion pound Raptor or Everest to drag around 387 days a year. Owners praise the new trucks power and efficiency.
3. Haters with trucks that make less power and torque, say "It's too compluhcated and new, and the turbuh n motor wont last" and "Yuh need uh f650 dually with a nuclur ractor unduh da hood to pull that popup"
4. Owners continue to put up crazy unloaded mileage numbers and brag about the great ride and technology of the new truck.
5. Haters say "Technogy!?!? Tubuhs and Deeeeerect jection been round a hunnert years!!!" (kind of goes against what they said in #3)
6. Owners chuckle for allowing themselves to get dragged into a pissing match with someone of obviously diminished mental capacity on the internet. Turns around and waves at the DA in the rear view mirror and drives off into the sunset happy as a clam.
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ROTFLMAO believe me, you have no idea what you are talking about or have your eyes closed because of brand loyalty.
