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ramlinwillie

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Mile High wrote:

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A fifth wheel setup is not a trailer, it's a fifth wheel and you can attach a trailer to it and you are legal, the thing you need to consider is the length, that's where you'll be breaking the law.
Don't hold on to that argument in front of the patrol - you will lose.

Really?
Can you legally ride in the back of a trailer, no, but you can in a fifth wheel.
You have to have a safety chain attached when towing a trailer, not when towing a fifth wheel.
That's just two laws that separate the two vehicles, and the laws are not that simple to apply to both.


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ramlinwillie wrote:

A fifth wheel setup is not a trailer, it's a fifth wheel and you can attach a trailer to it and you are legal, the thing you need to consider is the length, that's where you'll be breaking the law.


Hey ramlinwillie,

If your talking about a 5th wheel dolly, it is a trailer used to provide a front axle for a semi trailer.

If your talking about a trailer that attaches to the truck with a "fifth wheel" hitch, yes it's a trailer.

If your talking about the "5th wheel hitch", no it's the part that hooks the trailer and truck together and lets them articulate to make turns.

If your talking about something else, please 'splain????

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Because we're talking about campers it should be easy to understand. I'm talking about double towing, a fifth wheel is not consider a trailer and you can attach two trailers behind a fifth wheel and you would be double towing, legal in CO.


"you can attach two trailers behind a fifth wheel and you would be double towing, legal in CO."

REALLY??
Can you please give us the applicable law that states this?
Even here in Montana, where towing two ball hitch trailers is legal, THAT would NOT be legal! It is a triple tow, not a double tow! Fifth wheel/trailer/trailer is three trailers, not two!
I would be VERY interested in seeing the law that authorizes such a fifth wheel/trailer/trailer towing set-up. Please post the text of the law, or a link to it.
Also please post the rule, regulation, or law that states that a fifth wheel is not a trailer. I want to see that one, too!


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ramlinwillie wrote:

HamsHog wrote:

ramlinwillie wrote:

A fifth wheel setup is not a trailer, it's a fifth wheel and you can attach a trailer to it and you are legal, the thing you need to consider is the length, that's where you'll be breaking the law.


Hey ramlinwillie,

If your talking about a 5th wheel dolly, it is a trailer used to provide a front axle for a semi trailer.

If your talking about a trailer that attaches to the truck with a "fifth wheel" hitch, yes it's a trailer.

If your talking about the "5th wheel hitch", no it's the part that hooks the trailer and truck together and lets them articulate to make turns.

If your talking about something else, please 'splain????

Regards, Hamshog

Because we're talking about campers it should be easy to understand. I'm talking about double towing, a fifth wheel is not consider a trailer and you can attach two trailers behind a fifth wheel and you would be double towing, legal in CO.


Hey ramlinwillie,

To say a 5th wheel coach is not a trailer is flat out wrong. Must be the thin air in Colorado....

Regards, Hamshog


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Posted: 02/09/12 09:27am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What makes a fifth wheel a fifth wheel? Is it the manner in which it is attached to the TV? If so, when I see a semi pulling a long trailer I'll stop calling them tractor-trailers and start calling them tractor-5ers.


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Posted: 02/09/12 09:30am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ramlinwillie wrote:

Can you legally ride in the back of a trailer, no, but you can in a fifth wheel.


In some states you can legally ride in the back of a 5er, but not in all states.


ramlinwillie wrote:

You have to have a safety chain attached when towing a trailer, not when towing a fifth wheel.
Correct. The two trailers use completely different methods of attachment.

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remoandiris wrote:

What makes a fifth wheel a fifth wheel? Is it the manner in which it is attached to the TV? If so, when I see a semi pulling a long trailer I'll stop calling them tractor-trailers and start calling them tractor-5ers.


Hey remoandiris,

Really?? Yup, the manner it's attached. Also refered to as a semi-trailer.

Regards, Hamshog

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Now we are into repeats. Closed.
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