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Posted: 02/08/12 05:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

remoandiris wrote:

I found the Fl statute with a little help from another towing site. Double towing in Fl is ILLEGAL. If anyone finds a Fl statute counter to this one, please post it.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/filestores/web/statutes/fs07/CH0316/Section_0316.515.HTM


(3) LENGTH LIMITATION.—Except as otherwise provided in this section, length limitations apply solely to a semitrailer or trailer, and not to a truck tractor or to the overall length of a combination of vehicles. No combination of commercial motor vehicles coupled together and operating on the public roads may consist of more than one truck tractor and two trailing units. (3) Unless otherwise specifically provided for in this section, a combination of vehicles not qualifying as commercial motor vehicles may consist of no more than two units coupled together;

Two units coupled together,truck & trailer, only one is coupled, the trailer to the truck. This means, you can tow doubles.





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usmohls2@yahoo.com wrote:

remoandiris wrote:

I found the Fl statute with a little help from another towing site. Double towing in Fl is ILLEGAL. If anyone finds a Fl statute counter to this one, please post it.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/filestores/web/statutes/fs07/CH0316/Section_0316.515.HTM


(3) LENGTH LIMITATION.—Except as otherwise provided in this section, length limitations apply solely to a semitrailer or trailer, and not to a truck tractor or to the overall length of a combination of vehicles. No combination of commercial motor vehicles coupled together and operating on the public roads may consist of more than one truck tractor and two trailing units. (3) Unless otherwise specifically provided for in this section, a combination of vehicles not qualifying as commercial motor vehicles may consist of no more than two units coupled together;

Two units coupled together,truck & trailer, only one is coupled, the trailer to the truck. This means, you can tow doubles.


Uhhhhh, TWO units coupled TOGETHER is what the statute says. Truck is one unit. Trailer is one unit. Coupled TOGETHER is "TWO" units. No, you can NOT double tow in Fl.

Of course people are supposed to obey the speed limit, too, but don't. So take your chances and pay the fine. Oh yeah, and drop the 2nd trailer when you get pulled over.


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hahaha - no wonder we need judges. I've never seen so many ways to twist a sentence to make it work for your argument.

Stand back - read it again and take it for what it says and stop trying to read into it. Two units is two units, not three.


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This is another of those topics like "Can I tow this trailer with my 1/2 ton truck?" The people who ask intend to do it no matter what any of us say. They keep looking for wiggle room in the Statutes just like they look for slack in axle ratings.

It is really a shame to see so much experience and/or research going to waste.

Do whatever you want. The fine won't cost me anything.


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Allworth wrote:

This is another of those topics like "Can I tow this trailer with my 1/2 ton truck?"


Oh yes and the trailer in question is a 36' Excel quad slide fiver! Yes, the truck may tow it but ...... will it stop it! Just a question most folks don't think of.

Just an opinion, towing a boat with no trailer brakes behind a RV is an accident waiting to happen. Some states may permit it but that does not mean the legislators who vote on such laws have any common sense!

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Personally I think its unsafe and I would like to see it banned in all states, that's just my two cents, so what do I know.

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"(3) LENGTH LIMITATION.—Except as otherwise provided in this section, length limitations apply solely to a semitrailer or trailer, and not to a truck tractor or to the overall length of a combination of vehicles. No combination of commercial motor vehicles coupled together and operating on the public roads may consist of more than one truck tractor and two trailing units. (3) Unless otherwise specifically provided for in this section, a combination of vehicles not qualifying as commercial motor vehicles may consist of no more than two units coupled together;..."

Let's break that down to sentences and see what we come up with:
"No combination of commercial motor vehicles coupled together and operating on the public roads may consist of more than one truck tractor and two trailing units."
That seems pretty straightforward; "NO combination of COMMERCIAL motor vehicles may consist of more than one truck tractor and two trailing units"! OK, pretty obvious, the towing unit and two trailers!
Now then:
"a combination of vehicles NOT qualifying as COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES may consist of no more than two units coupled together;..."
Again, seems pretty straightforward; a NON-commercial (As in RVs?) combination can consist of NO MORE than two units coupled together. TWO UNITS, as in towing unit and one trailer?
That's certainly how I read it!


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usmohls2@yahoo.com wrote:

remoandiris wrote:

I found the Fl statute with a little help from another towing site. Double towing in Fl is ILLEGAL. If anyone finds a Fl statute counter to this one, please post it.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/filestores/web/statutes/fs07/CH0316/Section_0316.515.HTM


(3) LENGTH LIMITATION.—Except as otherwise provided in this section, length limitations apply solely to a semitrailer or trailer, and not to a truck tractor or to the overall length of a combination of vehicles. No combination of commercial motor vehicles coupled together and operating on the public roads may consist of more than one truck tractor and two trailing units. (3) Unless otherwise specifically provided for in this section, a combination of vehicles not qualifying as commercial motor vehicles may consist of no more than two units coupled together;

Two units coupled together,truck & trailer, only one is coupled, the trailer to the truck. This means, you can tow doubles.
Tell it to the judge. You will lose. No non-commercial double towing in Florida. Period.


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HamsHog wrote:

ramlinwillie wrote:

A fifth wheel setup is not a trailer, it's a fifth wheel and you can attach a trailer to it and you are legal, the thing you need to consider is the length, that's where you'll be breaking the law.


Hey ramlinwillie,

If your talking about a 5th wheel dolly, it is a trailer used to provide a front axle for a semi trailer.

If your talking about a trailer that attaches to the truck with a "fifth wheel" hitch, yes it's a trailer.

If your talking about the "5th wheel hitch", no it's the part that hooks the trailer and truck together and lets them articulate to make turns.

If your talking about something else, please 'splain????

Regards, Hamshog

Because we're talking about campers it should be easy to understand. I'm talking about double towing, a fifth wheel is not consider a trailer and you can attach two trailers behind a fifth wheel and you would be double towing, legal in CO.


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Here's mine.

Likely not legal in all states........This pic is at a rest stop south of Atlanta. This rig has been from Ontario Canada to FLA twice now.



Had a few discussions with LEO in GA, they all liked the design and commented on how well it was engineered.

guess I was just lucky! Unit is sitting now, my new 5ver is way too long to put that behind it

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