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joe mine is a little (very little) heaver than yours i run 65 in front and 60 in rear have been for years. get you a spray bottle with a little dish soap and water mix then watch for bubbles mine leaked when new from the connection on the lines. that said you may need to give it a few minutes to see a slow leak
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harold1946
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Joe; I would say you have made the right decision. If properly maintained those new bags should last at least 15 years. If they are the Firestones they are guranteed for life, free replacement, just save your receipt.
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Joe I can understand where your coming from with the air bags but if you have all four corners weighed and tell the people at Henderson what the weights are they can tell you what springs and air pressures you will want to run--I changed my springs myself in the driveway and I think it wasn't any harder then wrestling the stupid bags--Good luck with your project which ever way you go-And for giving advice or sugggestions I have done the bags on my 1991 Bounder and then removed the old coil springs & put new springs and discarded the old springs & bags-THE BAGS ARE BANDAIDS -Rich
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michahicks
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racer99 wrote:Joe I can understand where your coming from with the air bags but if you have all four corners weighed and tell the people at Henderson what the weights are they can tell you what springs and air pressures you will want to run--I changed my springs myself in the driveway and I think it wasn't any harder then wrestling the stupid bags--Good luck with your project which ever way you go-And for giving advice or sugggestions I have done the bags on my 1991 Bounder and then removed the old coil springs & put new springs and discarded the old springs & bags- THE BAGS ARE BANDAIDS -Rich
Took me a while, but I came to the same conclusion, ended up doing springs in my driveway as well (93 34' HR)!
I believe Chevy and the coach manufacturers knew it from the get go too. Nobody wanted to spend the money required to put the right springs in for each different coach length/floor plan - so they bastardized it with air bags - and told everyone they could adjust them to do anything. And I have a great deal on some property in the everglades.... The bags have been an issue from the day they started using them.
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michahicks wrote:
Took me a while, but I came to the same conclusion, ended up doing springs in my driveway as well (93 34' HR)!
I believe Chevy and the coach manufacturers knew it from the get go too. Nobody wanted to spend the money required to put the right springs in for each different coach length/floor plan - so they bastardized it with air bags - and told everyone they could adjust them to do anything. And I have a great deal on some property in the everglades.... The bags have been an issue from the day they started using them.
agreed. Any seasoned tech would tell you the same.
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harold1946 wrote:Joe; I would say you have made the right decision. If properly maintained those new bags should last at least 15 years. If they are the Firestones they are guranteed for life, free replacement, just save your receipt.
interesting. What is the end user supposed to do with the rig while the old ones are removed and sent to Firestone for warranty review?
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harold1946
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michahicks wrote:racer99 wrote:Joe I can understand where your coming from with the air bags but if you have all four corners weighed and tell the people at Henderson what the weights are they can tell you what springs and air pressures you will want to run--I changed my springs myself in the driveway and I think it wasn't any harder then wrestling the stupid bags--Good luck with your project which ever way you go-And for giving advice or sugggestions I have done the bags on my 1991 Bounder and then removed the old coil springs & put new springs and discarded the old springs & bags- THE BAGS ARE BANDAIDS -Rich
Took me a while, but I came to the same conclusion, ended up doing springs in my driveway as well (93 34' HR)!
I believe Chevy and the coach manufacturers knew it from the get go too. Nobody wanted to spend the money required to put the right springs in for each different coach length/floor plan - so they bastardized it with air bags - and told everyone they could adjust them to do anything. And I have a great deal on some property in the everglades.... The bags have been an issue from the day they started using them.
I am curious about what issue you are referring to. Two previous coaches were both on P series chassis and never had any issues
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Weathertodd221 wrote:harold1946 wrote:Joe; I would say you have made the right decision. If properly maintained those new bags should last at least 15 years. If they are the Firestones they are guranteed for life, free replacement, just save your receipt.
interesting. What is the end user supposed to do with the rig while the old ones are removed and sent to Firestone for warranty review?
There is no rewiew. they will replace any failed bag.
It would be no different than any other suspension failure, park it until repaired. Even air bags on diesel pushers have been known to fail, or springs to break.
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harold1946 wrote:michahicks wrote:racer99 wrote:Joe I can understand where your coming from with the air bags but if you have all four corners weighed and tell the people at Henderson what the weights are they can tell you what springs and air pressures you will want to run--I changed my springs myself in the driveway and I think it wasn't any harder then wrestling the stupid bags--Good luck with your project which ever way you go-And for giving advice or sugggestions I have done the bags on my 1991 Bounder and then removed the old coil springs & put new springs and discarded the old springs & bags- THE BAGS ARE BANDAIDS -Rich
Took me a while, but I came to the same conclusion, ended up doing springs in my driveway as well (93 34' HR)!
I believe Chevy and the coach manufacturers knew it from the get go too. Nobody wanted to spend the money required to put the right springs in for each different coach length/floor plan - so they bastardized it with air bags - and told everyone they could adjust them to do anything. And I have a great deal on some property in the everglades.... The bags have been an issue from the day they started using them.
I am curious about what issue you are referring to Two previous coaches were both on P series chassis and never had any issues
You're going to tell us that because the 2 coaches you've had have never had issues due to airbags (stretching my imagination here, but if you say so), that these problems don't exist?
Not going to argue the point further. It's beating a dead horse. The problems are very well known, established many times previously.
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I am just seeking an explanation of what issues, problems, there have been, not trying to argue.
Coil over air systems have been in use for many many years and considered one of the best and most versitile suspension systems in use.
It must be unreasonable to ask for an explination.
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