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turninghawk

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Posted: 02/08/12 02:24pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Your title "dealer run around" --- referring to what exactly?

It's not up to the truck dealer to tell you what you can or cannot tow. That's your responsibility. It's called due diligence. All the information needed is out there. Just find it and do YOUR homework.

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Jayco makes 5-6 different lines of TTs with bunkhouse models.

it would help knowing the specific model number and line.
is it a Jay Flight, Jayfeather, Jayfeather Select, Eagle, Eagle Lite,
White Hawk and so on? many of these have bunkhouse models in the 32' range.

if the 7800 is the fictional "dry" weight, expect that it'll weigh 300-400lbs. more when delivered from the factory.
that's before battery, propane, water and cargo.


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"Dealer run around" is all to common and the best defense or position is knowledge
to push back or question their claims

Made up this image below to help folks like the OP who are not sure and/or confused
by the claims of most dealers (TV and TT's)

There is a difference between the actual weights and the 'ratings' weights listed
in all OEM specifications. The OEM's use a stripper model (curb for the TV and
dry for the trailer) so that they can claim the biggest, but that is the only
way they can. As the option matrix is huge and compounded by the other (TV and trailer)

Why most of the posters so far ask which model and best to have
actual weights. But since you don't have the trailer yet, use your
best guess on how much it will weigh over that 'dry' weight they
quote. Also, the MTWR (max tow weight rating) of the TV is derived
from a 'curb' TV weight (stripper with no options)






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Posted: 02/08/12 03:58pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

i think the OP already has the trailer and is looking for a new tow vehicle.

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Suburban 2500 with a 6.0 or a 8.1

Or get a smaller trailer.

You are in 3/4 to 1 ton territory

Loaded you will be 9-10k

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You're fine! Trust me, I know. I work for an RV dealer. We see a lot of heavier rigs go out of here all the time.
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I see to many people with half tons pulling 30+ft of trailer. Works great if you live in the falt expanses of the mid-west....If you have any passes to pull, up or down, you will want at least a 3/4 ton. I see to many half tons pulling long grades at 25-35 miles an hour in the breakdown lane. This has to put early wear and tear on the motor and drive train, thus shortening the trucks life. Just my opinion.......nothing against towing with half tons, as I have done it...just with a smaller trailer.


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The way I read This spec sheet from GM, the truck is capable of a 9,500# Pull behind trailer. Make sure the truck has the heavy duty cooling and the 3.42 rear. My wife has the same truck in a 2010 model and I have not pulled anything with it but it sure has lots of power. We use her truck around town and as the family vehicle as it gets 17-18 mpg. My pulling truck only gets 10mpg empty around town.
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MM49 wrote:

You're fine! Trust me, I know. I work for an RV dealer. We see a lot of heavier rigs go out of here all the time.
MM49

That doesn't mean they should be!
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MM49 wrote:

You're fine! Trust me, I know. I work for an RV dealer. We see a lot of heavier rigs go out of here all the time.
MM49


Yeah OK. And you know what we see here all the time????? People way in over their head looking for help because they listened to their "highly trained and knowledgable RV dealership staff" who said......"you're fine, trust me" .

OP, educate yourself. Don't trust a dealership (auto or RV) to know or care about your towing needs. Most half tons are good for about 7000 lbs. of loaded travel trailer, they just don't have the payload. 7400 lbs. dry will put down 8500 lbs. or more loaded and over 1000 lbs, of tongue weight.


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