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Yoy might want to check with your insurance company. They have been known to cover things like that.
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dougrainer

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ANYTIME you have the Touch Pad ON and there is a Red light for ANY of the jacks ON and that light does not go out and you have pushed STORE, the solenoids will burn out in about 15 to 25 minutes as they are NOT designed to have power for more than 10 minutes. EVEN if the jack HAS retracted but the light stays on for that jack(bad sensor in the jack) the solenoid will burn out also if left in Store mode. IF you cannot get a Jack down light to go out but can get the jacks high enough to travel always turn the jack system OFF even tho the red LED will stay on the power to the solenoids is OFF. Doug
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Doug this is good information to know. Does this also apply to the joy stick models of HWH?
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dougrainer

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Gjac wrote: Doug this is good information to know. Does this also apply to the joy stick models of HWH?
NO, as Joystick the Joystick valve is manual. Doug
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Doug - I have a HWH manual leveling system on my unit. I regularly travel with the "store" button pushed (red light on). I travel primarily in the Southern US and found in summer the jacks would go down slightly and the audible alarm would sound - very disturbing. Leaving the "store" button energized eliminated this. My understanding, and I think it's what your saying, is that if a JACK red light is on the solenoid is energized and this will in time burn out the solenoid. Several old threads on this. Are we on the same page here? Just want to be sure I have not overlooked anything.
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as doug said, the red jack down light showing on your touch panel indicates that the system is still on, and will burn out the solenoid and the circuit board if left on for an extended period of time. if you cant get the light out with the touch pad, go under the coach and unplug the two wire connector at the top of the jack. this will turn the red light out. the system will still work manually, you just cant tell when that jack is down by the light anymore. leaving the store button on is ok if all of the red lights go off and the system shuts down on its own. this is the correct way for it to work.
the joystick levers should be left in the open position when traveling. if you have a jack down light on that light panel, it will not burn anything out. the buzzer will however not shut off till the red jack light is out.
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PandK wrote: Doug - I have a HWH manual leveling system on my unit. I regularly travel with the "store" button pushed (red light on). I travel primarily in the Southern US and found in summer the jacks would go down slightly and the audible alarm would sound - very disturbing. Leaving the "store" button energized eliminated this. My understanding, and I think it's what your saying, is that if a JACK red light is on the solenoid is energized and this will in time burn out the solenoid. Several old threads on this. Are we on the same page here? Just want to be sure I have not overlooked anything.
You are correct. I should have explained better. ONLY the Jack DOWN red LED will be the problem. On 300 series HWH systems it is required to drive with the Store button pushed, BUT NOT if you have any of the 4 Jack down red lights on, then you turn the system OFF to prevent burning up the solenoids. Doug
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So if you disconnect the connector at the top of the jack, will that also shut off the jack down alarm? This is good information, thanks for sharing.
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azpete wrote: as doug said, the red jack down light showing on your touch panel indicates that the system is still on, and will burn out the solenoid and the circuit board if left on for an extended period of time. if you cant get the light out with the touch pad, go under the coach and unplug the two wire connector at the top of the jack. this will turn the red light out. the system will still work manually, you just cant tell when that jack is down by the light anymore. leaving the store button on is ok if all of the red lights go off and the system shuts down on its own. this is the correct way for it to work.
the joystick levers should be left in the open position when traveling. if you have a jack down light on that light panel, it will not burn anything out. the buzzer will however not shut off till the red jack light is out.
It should NOT burn up the Circuit Board as EACH solenoid has its own fuse. I have seen incompetent techs replace the circuit board claiming it was burnt up when in reality it was the solenoids that were burnt and the fuse on the circuit board was burnt and the "Tech" did not know about those fuses and replaced the complete control board. THEN after that did not fix the problem they found the solenoids bad. Usually you only burn up 1 solenoid not all 4. Doug
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if you have a newer 310-325 or 610-625 system, the system is designed to monitor the jacks after they are retracted. if one comes on, it will energize that solenoid and retract that jack until the circuit board sees that it is retracted. you normally should not see a light on the touch panel when that happens. this happens only if you follow the procedure outlined in your operators manual for retraction. you have to let the system shut itself off, and reactivate this procedure every time you stop and shut the engine off while traveling.
if you turn the touch panel off after the jacks are retracted the system will not monitor the jacks.
this will cause the alarm to go off if a jack extends more than 1/2 inch or so.
but the circuit board and solenoids wont burn out either. so if everything is working to plan, let the system shut down and you are good to go.reactivate it after every stop. if you have a jack light showing, unplug that jack until you can get it fixed. if this isnt clear, its all in the service and operators manual.
john, unplugging that sensor will shut down the alarm. do this only temporarily. its a safety feature
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