The Texan wrote: The problem is, the baby boomers that are retiring today are the one's who raised these people and taught them the manners they display. These same baby boomers are also starting to display their behavior in public places, like camp grounds and that is a good reflection as to why their children act the way they do today....
I think it all started with not keeping score at tee ball games and everyone gets to play regardless of talent, and of course, eveyone gets a trophy at the end of the season...
just sayin. (Ooops. That was another thread!
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mowermech wrote: Amazing! One person (or even a few people) acts like a complete idiot, and an entire class or generation of people are indicted for it!
I simply don't see the types of problems often reported on these forums, where I live, except, of course, for the bratty children who should be taken home and sat in a corner.
IMO, there has always been a certain percentage of society who were ill prepared to live with other people. I think that percentage has remained fairly constant over the years, but as the population has increased the number of those has increased as well. 10% (to pick a number out of the air) of a billion is a LOT more people than 10% of a million!
You live in a sparsely populated area and a sheltered life. Come out into civilization once in awhile and you will see it is more common today than you think.
I agree with mower on this one--I just don't see this kind of behavior in this part of the country and no, don't think I want or need to come out "into civilization" if some of what is describe by posters is going on there. Think I will just sit back in my quiet part of the world with my unlocked doors, safe streets, and considerate people and call it a life.
I never walk that far away from my cart, I have my handbag fasten on where the child seat is and no one is coming near my cart! I am just curious how that woman had time to do take out all your wifes goods and drive away!
5thwheeleroldman wrote: Our generation was taught to not make a scene or get into a public fight, so she just let her have it after it was obvious she would not give the cart back. I can forsee more public fights, shootings and stabbings over small things in our future.
We're probably the same age because I was raised the same way but I've had a bellyfull. People like that get away with it because they know people will be afraid to do anything about it. Not this old lady. When someone pulls a stunt like that on me, or litters, or cuts in line, I make noise. Lots of it. If more people would grow a spine and do the same, this kind of nonsense would stop. Sure, I might get hurt or even killed someday but if the founding fathers of this country had had that attitude, we would all be singing God Save the Queen!
5thwheeleroldman wrote: Two days ago my wife was shopping in Walmart and had her cart hijacked. A young woman, early 30's, dumped her stuff on a shelf, kept two of the bags of bird seeds, and just used the cart as her own. My wife, who just had both knees replaced, doesn't walk so good, came back the adjacent aisle and caught her with the cart next to our stuff stacked on a nearby shelf. Her excuse was, "Well I asked loudly if anyone was using this cart and no one answered". Guess the stack of items in the cart meant nothing to her.
It hurt my wife's feelings and she had to go to the front and get another cart and retrieve her stuff. Nothing was paid for, so no lost money, but "GOOD LORD, how narcissistic can these young people be?".
I told the wife to consider the funny side. Just imagine when this 30 something hijacks the cart of another self centered 30 something. Boy what a fight that will be!
I do agree that it was very rude of your wife to abandon her shopping cart like that, inconsiderately blocking the aisle for other shoppers, but I don't think you should vilify her entire generation because of her rudeness and narcissism.
(Yes, I'm just pointing out that there are 2 sides to every story. That's the problem; we always think "me generation" is the other person.)
One thing that bugs me more than anything when in a supermarket or anywhere else that uses carts is when someone leaves there cart and walks away from it. To leave your cart and go to another aisle is just plain rude. Your wife's cart is blocking the way. If two people come down the aisle from separate directions, there is no one there to move her car out of the way. Very few stores have enough room for 3 carts to go down an aisle side by side.
Yes, what the other woman did was rude, even more rude that she didn't give the cart back, but not all young people act this way.
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PLAIN RUDE BEHAVIOR! Remember a Saturday and our family forgot to get a ham for our Easter sunday family gatehering. I went to the local grocer; was in the meat section and a few were left. I found one that looked good; picked it up and (removed gender) took it out of my hands and started to walk away. I spun the person around and snagged my ham back. Gave them the Jerry Seinfeld "LOOK" and walked away. Guess; I was RUDE!
I am to the point when in a store shopping and someone leaves a cart in the middle of the isle and walks away, I'll ram it out of my way. I can be the politest of people but I can be very rude when the need arises!
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It has nothing to do with the "ME" generation and lots to do with the "I think I can get away with it" society developing around us.
It's everywhere. Younger generation to older generation, Government and business. If they think they can get away with it, they will try.
You of course are a horrible person if you catch them, hold them accountable or even worse make it so their own actions have a negative affect on them somehow.
It is true that we have been taught to blow it off, be tolerant and not make a scene. That's why so many are getting away with it.
Another thing is we live for the better part in a anonymous society where even if you do get caught, the chance you will ever see that person again and deal with the repercussions of your actions is slim. I grew up in a town of 300, if you got busted telling a fib as a child, it affected your forever. Believe me, all 300 knew about it too.
It gets funny when someone else pulls something on the person that just did it to you. While they had a perfectly good excuse for why it was ok for them to do it, there will never be a reason it was ok for them to be treated that way. You will find of course that they will have no issues with raising a stink.
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