RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Class A Motorhomes: A fire beneath the Fridge

RV Blog

  |  

RV Sales

  |  

Campgrounds

  |  

RV Parks

  |  

RV Club

  |  

RV Buyers Guide

  |  

Roadside Assistance

  |  

Extended Service Plan

  |  

RV Travel Assistance

  |  

RV Credit Card

  |  

RV Loans

Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Help and Support  |  Contact

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Class A Motorhomes

Open Roads Forum  >  Class A Motorhomes

 > A fire beneath the Fridge

This Topic Is Closed  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 2  
Next
Sponsored By:
zaitzcj

Rogue River, Oregon

Full Member

Joined: 06/14/2004

View Profile



Posted: 02/17/12 05:31pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I had electrical problems: one circuit kept tripping breakers. Took techs quite a while to find the problem: a 110 junction box beneath the refrigerator had shorted out, and burned part way through. Boy, are we lucky it didn't burn the place down. Some points here: Fleetwood puts all their electronics (converter, breakers, climate control) under the fridge. Now isn't that stupid? Of all the places in the MH where there may be moisture this would top the list.
And the second stupid thing Fleetwood designers did was put a 110 wire junction in a PLASTIC box. If it had been metal, as seems reasonable, the arcing wires would never have burned through. This is a 2000 Fleetwood Pace Arrow Vision we're talking about.

rvrepairnut

bc

Senior Member

Joined: 11/11/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 05:44pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

zaitzcj wrote:

I had electrical problems: one circuit kept tripping breakers. Took techs quite a while to find the problem: a 110 junction box beneath the refrigerator had shorted out, and burned part way through. Boy, are we lucky it didn't burn the place down. Some points here: Fleetwood puts all their electronics (converter, breakers, climate control) under the fridge. Now isn't that stupid? Of all the places in the MH where there may be moisture this would top the list.
And the second stupid thing Fleetwood designers did was put a 110 wire junction in a PLASTIC box. If it had been metal, as seems reasonable, the arcing wires would never have burned through. This is a 2000 Fleetwood Pace Arrow Vision we're talking about.


most all the 120V outlet boxes are plastic on most all motorhomes
Its 12 years old.stuff gets worn and moved around etc
RV manufacturers do many many stupid things i have found over the years.
Iam curious as to what does this climate controll system you found under your fridge do??(whats it for)

Gale Hawkins

Murray, KY

Senior Member

Joined: 07/22/2007

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 06:28pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Could this be the "cause" of some 'frig' fires?

FormerBoater

South Florida

Senior Member

Joined: 02/08/2009

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 06:36pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

zaitzcj wrote:

I had electrical problems: one circuit kept tripping breakers. Took techs quite a while to find the problem: a 110 junction box beneath the refrigerator had shorted out, and burned part way through. Boy, are we lucky it didn't burn the place down. Some points here: Fleetwood puts all their electronics (converter, breakers, climate control) under the fridge. Now isn't that stupid? Of all the places in the MH where there may be moisture this would top the list.
And the second stupid thing Fleetwood designers did was put a 110 wire junction in a PLASTIC box. If it had been metal, as seems reasonable, the arcing wires would never have burned through. This is a 2000 Fleetwood Pace Arrow Vision we're talking about.


Sorry about your issue, glad you discovered it in time.

FWIW, my Fleetwood has only a drawer for pots and pans under the fridge.


Dave
1998 American Eagle 40EVS

Dale.Traveling

Newport News, VA

Senior Member

Joined: 12/16/2010

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 06:43pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I don't think are too many good places for it. My AC to DC convertor, Shore/Generator transfer switch and AC breaker panel is under the bed. Lot more stuff to catch fire there then a fridge. I would speculate that 75% of everything in a coach will burn and I think my estimate may be a bit lite.


2006 Hurricane 31D aka 'Moby' the Whale
FCC(SW) US Navy Retired 1980-2003
Stella my Navigator
Bogart the All American RV Dog
and
Cocoui waiting for me at the Rainbow Bridge


Jerry B

Lake of the Ozarks

Senior Member

Joined: 06/11/2001

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 06:46pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Homes are full of plastic electrical work boxes.


Jerry B
Mobile Suites 36TK3

johnsonbert

Houston, TX-Ironwood, MI

Senior Member

Joined: 12/05/2004

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/18/12 08:59am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Plastic will not conduct heat or electrical current, so it will not get hot enough from the heat of a direct short to ignite a wooden surface next to it and it will not allow current to jump to another metal item that is may be in contact with.

Most homes over the last 15+ years use plastic junction boxes for lighting, switches, outlets and junctions.

In the 99 Pace Arrow and 2000 Bounder we had, the electrical components and transfer switches were located in a compartment above the fridge and had to deal with the heat escaping from the fridge vent area, which was substantial.

Redo the connection and replace the box with another plastic or Bakelite one. I would suggest checking other connections held together with wire nuts that area accessible. Hope this may help, Happy Trails Bert


2003 American Tradition 40W 350 Cummins
2010 Chev Malibu LT

rvrepairnut

bc

Senior Member

Joined: 11/11/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 07:21pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

again I ask you? what is this climate controll under the fridge all about
Whats it for?

Carvin Marvin

Livingston, Texas, USA

Senior Member

Joined: 10/16/2004

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 02/18/12 05:12am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My Fleetwood also has a drawer under the fridge and under the drawer is the converter and of course a junction box. Have too look, I don't recall if plastic or metal.

barlow46

Edgewater, FL

Senior Member

Joined: 12/13/2004

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 02/17/12 07:08pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Did you determine why the "shorting out" happened?


2005 Monaco Dynasty Diamond IV 42'
04 F450, 6.0 auto, 4:30 rear; BrakeSmart; 50 gal aux.tank, 01 HR Presidential 35CKS, 3 slides, axles flipped; TrailAir Pinbox. pin weight 2760. Total gross TV and 5th: 24,060 lbs.

This Topic Is Closed  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 2  
Next

Open Roads Forum  >  Class A Motorhomes

 > A fire beneath the Fridge
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Class A Motorhomes


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:

© 2013 RV.Net | Terms & Conditions | PRIVACY POLICY | YOUR PRIVACY RIGHTS