Wow! I got up this morning thinking maybe someone would have responded and bam! I got all of you. Thanks so much!! Really thankful to see people take the time to write. I am thinking I'm gonna go for it, not to discredit anyone who advised against it. I am going to put up the rest of the specs just to see if anyone spots something. I know bigger TV is going to give me that extra braking/ towing power but my problem here is that I'm juggling getting a TV and having a daily vehicle for my wife and kids.
2012 Ford Expedition EL 2x4 Heavy Duty Tow Package
drive ratio 3.73
5,844 lbs. Curb weight
2,893 lbs. Front curb weight
2,951 lbs. Rear curb weight
7,540 lbs. GVWR
3,500 lbs. Front GAWR
4,250 lbs. Rear GAWR
1,580 lbs. Payload
3,500 lbs. Front axle capacity
4,250 lbs. Rear axle capacity
3,500 lbs. Front spring rating
4,250 lbs. Rear spring rating
8,900 lbs. Towing capacity
15,000 lbs GCWR
Its just a lot of $$, unfortunately you really never know until you put things in a real life scenario to see how they perform. That is why I would rather hear from you all then the salesman telling me "oh ya, sure, sure, it will be fine". A little reassurance from some seasoned owners goes much further with me.
I'm at 6000 lbs and 850 tongue weight. 400 lbs under the GVWR
You're going to come in around 6500 lbs and 850-900 lbs of tongue weight. You'll be at your GVWR limit but the truck won't collapse. You'll be under your RAWR and probably right at the max of FAWR. Waaaay under GCWR and towing capacity.
Get a very good hitch with built in sway control. I'm using Reese's strait line (HP Dual Cam).
You will be right at the limits of your El but you should be fine. 1580 payload is a base model figure. In the end I imagine you may exceed this figure a bit with the loaded trailer attached. Check the payload sticker on the drivers door of the unit you plan to buy to see towing parameters for that specific unit.
The 1684 carrying capacity of the Passport is a bit light but that's another issue and may not matter depending on your camping style. Again the TT will have a stick with more accurate figures as well.
07'Duramax dually,12'Open Range 399BHS
Hawkshead TPMS,Hensley BD3,K-Bee exhaust brake
Blue Ox Bedsaver,air bags,Garmin RV760 w/BC20 camera
Arvika bike rack,Bak-Flip G2
5500 Onan LP,Progressive surge,keyless RV Lock
Porta Bote w/8.0 Nissan
Vu Cube,Splendide WD
Get yourself a good WD hitch with sway control and you should be fine. Just don't pack a bunch of stuff in the back of the tow vehicle. Put it in the trailer and you should be good to go.
P.S.- I'm hoping to be signing the papers on a new camper tomorrow. One of the ones i am looking at is the same as yours. It just has the double bunks(2650BH) instead of the quad bunks and is 3ft shorter. I originally looked at the 2910bh but my storage options are limited and the 3 extra feet won't work. Good luck and happy camping!! Kev
DS-Tyler 8yrs old
DD-Makayla 5yrs old
2011 FORD F150 SUPERCREW FX4 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Pkg and 157" wheelbase
2006 SHAMROCK 21ss(Sold)
2012 Keystone Outback 292BH(New)
Like many of the others have said, you'll be pretty close to limits of the Expy but you should be OK... The 5.4 is a very good motor and the 3:73 rear axle is a plus... You'll be slowing down going up hills (and mountains) but we all do that...
If anything, you'll run out of truck GVWR first... If you load the TT to it's maximum #7200 GVWR your tongue weight (@ 13%) will be #936... That leaves you #760 for the weight of your family and any cargo in the truck before you run out of GVWR... Close, but I think you can do it...
Good luck with the new rig and be sure and tell us how things work out...
2000 Ford F-250SD, XLT, 4X4 Off Road, SuperCab
w/ 6.8L (415 C.I.) V-10/3:73LS/4R100
Banks Power Pack w/Trans Command & OttoMind
Sold Trailer - not RV'ing at this point in time
If you do some researching in the rvfaq section at the top of this page, in all that info listed in that section is a rule of thumb for deciding what length of a TT you can buy or tow with a tow vehicle of certain wheel base. look it up and then decide.