Lantley wrote: That is a different floorplan. I prefer rear lounge floor plans. But I do like the uniqueness of that floor plan. Is there enough natural light in the front living room?
If I want natural light I go outside for a walk with the pups. When I'm in the front living room I usually have the 42 inch LED/LCD cued to watch Football or a good movie with the surround sound cranked up. Classic rock from 5 speakers is cool. Dw usually goes to the bedroom, closes the door and plays words with friends.
Ok I get it. I can relate to the man Cave thing
It's a man cave until my 3 grandchildren go along, then it becomes entertainment central at night. Barney, I Carley, All things Disney get top billing and I get to join DW in the bedroom. That's not a bad thing.
I hope you all realize that one CANNOT get to the bathroom in either the Cedar Creek or the Heartland floor plans without opening the slides.
Yes, I realize it only takes a minute to open the slides. But it may be the longest minute of your life!
Looking at the floor plan given by the OP it looks as though you could get directly to the bathroom using the street side door without opening any slides
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I hope you all realize that one CANNOT get to the bathroom in either the Cedar Creek or the Heartland floor plans without opening the slides.
Yes, I realize it only takes a minute to open the slides. But it may be the longest minute of your life!
Looking at the floor plan given by the OP it looks as though you could get directly to the bathroom using the street side door without opening any slides
Sure can...another reason I like Cedar Creek's FL floorplan....
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mwebber78 wrote: I don't want to get shot, flamed, or banned from here.
All I will say is that Cedar Creek takes great care of it's customers, has great construction techniques, and makes a heck of a rig. In contrast to others, I wouldn't be concerned about the frame on the Cedar Creek.
I had a Lippert frame on my Cardinal. Left home from Denver and had a catastrophic metal failure in Council Bluffs. After a month of finger pointing between Forest River and Lippert, I got them to fix it. Once fixed, it had one last trip - to,the nearest Newmar dealer in Des Moines. Lippert and Forest River ruined a whole summer for me. I have had the Newmar dor 6 years and never had a problem since.
I'm a Creeker; an love our rear entertainment unit, but I am not thrilled with CC front living room. Then again I myself would not want a front living room. I don't believe it is suited for FT which we will start in 1 year or so.
The unit that I was impressed with is the Dutchmen Infinity. I've looked at numerous brands and do like the look of the Dutchmen followed by the Alpine FL.
Just my option based on looks, but you can't go wrong with a Cedar Creek!
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Quote: "Then again I myself would not want a front living room. I don't believe it is suited for FT which we will start in 1 year or so."
I used to be a full time traveler as a contract worker in the late 80s and the 90s. I had a Kit Elite front living room 5th wheel. As a full timer it was great because it put us up front during the day when everyone was awake and making noise. It had large windows and was well suited to daytime use.
But if I needed/wanted to sleep then or wanted to get away from the noises, retiring to the rear bedroom took me away from the daytime noises. I found the front living room was really well suited to full time living. Think about where you are when you sleep and are not asleep. The front bedroom puts you right up in the "action" no matter what time of day it is.
I loved ours even though it was an early model of 5th that set stage for the coming years.
Frank
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mwebber78 wrote: I don't want to get shot, flamed, or banned from here.
All I will say is that Cedar Creek takes great care of it's customers, has great construction techniques, and makes a heck of a rig. In contrast to others, I wouldn't be concerned about the frame on the Cedar Creek.
I had a Lippert frame on my Cardinal. Left home from Denver and had a catastrophic metal failure in Council Bluffs. After a month of finger pointing between Forest River and Lippert, I got them to fix it. Once fixed, it had one last trip - to,the nearest Newmar dealer in Des Moines. Lippert and Forest River ruined a whole summer for me. I have had the Newmar dor 6 years and never had a problem since.
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Each division has it's own management, warranty reps, factory, etc. So why would your Cardinal (spec'd out by Cardinal engineers to Lippert) have any bearing on a Cedar Creek which is built 20 miles away in it's own plant? That's like saying my Keystone Cougar failed (a THOR product) so I'll never own a Heartland (also a THOR product) when they have no relation except the fact they fall under the same corporate umbrella.
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We have looked at several front living areas, and was at the Tampa Rv show and there were several there. Keystone had the front living area several years ago. And Keystone brought it back and yes several other companies now have a front living area. Front living areas want work for us, we had rather have the rear living area. But its a choice. Be Happy...
Lippert bashing will continue because Lippert is the big dog on the Block. We have owned 6 different 5th with Lippert frames never a frame issue.. Most all have been very heavy. We only hear from those who do have issues.. But if you want a choice more than likely it will be on a Lippert frame. Lippert works for our use... But our 5th wheel rides on a 15" frame.. Happy Trails....
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