I saw my first Front Living 5'r at the Seattle RV show last week. I really liked the front living layout. A fully enclosed bath like the Cedar Creek would be my preference.
Heatland has a good reputation around here. I have no idea where they get or make their frames.
That's a nice option too, though I noticed the roof and floor R values are R28 and R23. I like the layout and the 4 door LP/120 refer.
FYI, the StoneRidge replaces the former top of the line model for KZ, the Escalade. If the StoneRidge is as well made and as highly regarded as the Escalade was by its owners, then it is going to be a winner.
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I saw a front LR floor plan at the Maryland RV show last weekend. What is really novel about it is there is no wall at the front of the unit. There was a 3' tall railing separating the elevated portion of the fiver from the rest of the unit. no wall allowed for a very open floorplan. I liked it much more in person than I thought I would.
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sounds like the Stone Ridge 38fl. It has a railing dividing the front living room from the kitchen. We saw the 1st one made in Tampa at the show, and then looked at every other make's front living plan and it was indeed more "open" than all the others. We fell in love with it, ordered one and hope to have it by March 15. When you're sitting on the couch you see about 25 feet of clear area and with all the slides open it really feels uncramped.
I hope you all realize that one CANNOT get to the bathroom in either the Cedar Creek or the Heartland floor plans without opening the slides.
Yes, I realize it only takes a minute to open the slides. But it may be the longest minute of your life!
Looking at the floor plan given by the OP it looks as though you could get directly to the bathroom using the street side door without opening any slides
Sure can...another reason I like Cedar Creek's FL floorplan....
I can tell you that having a bathroom blocked by the slide is a key option I will avoid on our next coach. Never gave it a thought until I was stricken with an illness that makes needing a pit stop a "right now " situation. And with the shape of most public restrooms today I would prefer to use my own. Having to move the slide out is now impossible in a pinch in that the DW's kayak rides on top of it. Winterizing/dewinterizing with the rig parked on the street would be so much easier as well. So I will make ease of bathroom access one priority in our next coach purchase....
Having street side access would just be a bonus! I really like this floorplan but don't want to have to buy a new tow rig so I will have to lower my tastes and expectations a little I guess....
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Ib We talked via PM, we were set on the Crossroads Rushmore FL BUT we just became pround parents of A 2013 Cedar Creek 38FL. We pick it up Thurs and head out for A shakedown Fri Morn. Man this Rig is Giant,
No there living area is not dark at all. Cant wait to see how the fridge performs. we will dry camp half the trip so I will give those 4 6 Volts on the inverter A good workout with the fridge
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Is the Wardrobe storage drawers or a closet? Either way very little clothes storage for a 38 footer.
MMM We liked it also but those two front slides brought the weight "weigh up" (pun)
And its just over 40 ft "But... The bathroom has a 9ft ceiling !!!
specs according to Forest River website;
Dry Hitch Weight
2,550 lb. (1,157 kg )
Dry Ship Weight
13,430 lb. (6,092 kg )
15,500 lb. (7,031 kg )
Cargo Carrying Capacity
2,070 lb. (939 kg )
40 ft. 8 in. (12.4 m)
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