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Thanks for the replies. It is looking like even at 500 for 2 zones it is not worth it.
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westernrvparkowner wrote:

In my opinion, you are watching a slow motion crash. $499 for 30 days is $16.00 a day. You might be able to run a park for a while at that rate, but there will not be money for improvements, repairs and upgrades. Also, staffing and ammenities will be minimal. So what happens is the park gradually goes downhill. To compensate, they lower the prices again and cut even more. snip .


There are RV Parks that do quite well on charging their members around
$10/day.. They do have a cost to join upfront, but when you are done, you can sell it, give it away or just give it back..
You can also buy "RESALES" for less than the cost of a new membership..
It has an annual membership fee of approx $240, with that, you get to use the park for 35/days.. You can buy additional time, if you want,
for approx $10/day.. That includes a utility charge of $3.50/day..

This park carries NO loans, paid off, and has a nice Reserve fund and growing..
This RV Park is over 30 years old, and upgrades happen all the time..
They have upgraded ALL elec to sites to 50/amp, revamped the water systems.. There are over 250 sites and all have full hook ups.. The park is on city water/sewer system.. They also have 10 rental cabins and a gated storage lot for members..

A very large clubhouse, year-round swimming pool, suanas, hot tub, playground for kids, three dog runs, three different places for bathrooms, with laundry service.. Arts and craft room, exerize room, woodworking room, stained glass room, mail room, card room, small libuary, with TV.. Lots of activites at the clubhouse.. Has a full kitchen and BBQ area..

The Park has approx 10 full paid staff and includes fulltime guards at the main gate 24/7..

We have stayed at this park, several months each year for several years and have enjoyed our time there..

They have a website, so easy to check out what I have posted.. And on RVpark Reviews, gets pretty good reviews..

It is affiliated with C2C, RPI, ROD and several others including
PassPort America..

The park is open to the general public, but they pay over $30/day, but most people that visit the park are members and affiliate members paying far less..
Location is pretty good if you like the desert area, and close to lots of sites to see.. Approx 60 miles to Las Vegas..
You can walk to a few Casino's and stores..
ALL for approx $10/day when we stayed there.. We bought a resale membership and after over 10 years of using this park, sold it on
Craigslist..

This park has Not lowered it daily rates, but increased them, when we first started visiting the Park, it was around $4/day but over the years, had to raise the rates for daily use to $10..

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Posted: 02/23/12 03:05pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi westernrvparkowner.. The name of the park is called preferred rv park located in Pahrump nevada..
The upfront fee to join is around $1195, but you can sometimes find a resale for less.. We did..

That is a one time upfront fee, the annual dues each year are $240 which includes the 35/days use each year..
You can stay in this park longer each year for approx $10/day which includes utilities if one chooses to do so..

I realize that this post is in TT, but you said NO park can operate at those prices very long without going down hill..

Check out the website if you want to.. Don't believe I mislead you on prices of what the members pay.. It is spelled out there and shows some pictures of the park, including the amenities, along with places close by to visit..

TT has some nice parks up here in the Northwest, worth the price of the zone membership.. Some are along the coast in oregon and washington..

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phil crouch wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

In my opinion, you are watching a slow motion crash. $499 for 30 days is $16.00 a day. You might be able to run a park for a while at that rate, but there will not be money for improvements, repairs and upgrades. Also, staffing and ammenities will be minimal. So what happens is the park gradually goes downhill. To compensate, they lower the prices again and cut even more. snip .


There are RV Parks that do quite well on charging their members around
$10/day.. They do have a cost to join upfront, but when you are done, you can sell it, give it away or just give it back..
You can also buy "RESALES" for less than the cost of a new membership..
It has an annual membership fee of approx $240, with that, you get to use the park for 35/days.. You can buy additional time, if you want,
for approx $10/day.. That includes a utility charge of $3.50/day..

This park carries NO loans, paid off, and has a nice Reserve fund and growing..
This RV Park is over 30 years old, and upgrades happen all the time..
They have upgraded ALL elec to sites to 50/amp, revamped the water systems.. There are over 250 sites and all have full hook ups.. The park is on city water/sewer system.. They also have 10 rental cabins and a gated storage lot for members..

A very large clubhouse, year-round swimming pool, suanas, hot tub, playground for kids, three dog runs, three different places for bathrooms, with laundry service.. Arts and craft room, exerize room, woodworking room, stained glass room, mail room, card room, small libuary, with TV.. Lots of activites at the clubhouse.. Has a full kitchen and BBQ area..

The Park has approx 10 full paid staff and includes fulltime guards at the main gate 24/7..

We have stayed at this park, several months each year for several years and have enjoyed our time there..

They have a website, so easy to check out what I have posted.. And on RVpark Reviews, gets pretty good reviews..

It is affiliated with C2C, RPI, ROD and several others including
PassPort America..

The park is open to the general public, but they pay over $30/day, but most people that visit the park are members and affiliate members paying far less..
Location is pretty good if you like the desert area, and close to lots of sites to see.. Approx 60 miles to Las Vegas..
You can walk to a few Casino's and stores..
ALL for approx $10/day when we stayed there.. We bought a resale membership and after over 10 years of using this park, sold it on
Craigslist..

This park has Not lowered it daily rates, but increased them, when we first started visiting the Park, it was around $4/day but over the years, had to raise the rates for daily use to $10..
It would be even easier to check out if you gave us the name and location. Obviously there is more to the story. It is impossible to operate a park that size with a staff of 10. I would be glad to let anyone stay at any of my parks for $240.00 for 35 days including utilities if I get to collect an undisclosed one time membership fee upfront. A sixty mile radius from anywhere leaves a lot of possibilities. Sixty Miles from one of my parks will put you on some of the most expensive ground in America. It will also put you on land where if you were to offer to buy 20 acres for $100.00 an acre, they would probably toss in another 20 jsut to make sure you didn't change your mind. As a final thought, of course there are exceptions to nearly everything, I am sure it is a fine park, but the inquiry was about Thousand Trails in general and I believe mine and other's analysis is correct, the parks are not getting better with age.

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Posted: 02/23/12 01:50pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

it is all about the cgs in the zone you want to buy.

review or visit them if you can ahead of time. if you have one or 2 cgs close enough that would can visit and see firsthand....and you find them nice, then the cost would be good.

I am southeast. I am checking into the zone and the cgs. 'seem' ok but alot are not on direct waterfront (like the ocean) which we enjoy....so I am iffy on spending.



2 zones for one? huh, haven't seen that. off to check TTs site.

I am going to plan a month/5 week trip to TX from NC. I want to hit all along the coast also. I could get 2 zones and do a 5 week trip for $500, plus a few $3 night stays. Sounds reasonable to me for sure...(runs off to check into this 2 zone thing)

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the parks are not getting better with age. Well compared to a Maytag box under an overpass, they may be equal.

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Hi westernrvparkowner.. Have you had a chance to check out the website??

They also have video's of the park on u tube..

Does it look like a park in decline??

Like I said, I never paid more than approx $10/day and that includes annual park fees.. In fact, when we first started going there, the daily fees were around $4 back in 1997, but have since had to raise them over time..

We bought a Resale for $800 and when we decided to leave, the new owner paid
$650, so we did take a hit there..
Over the years that we stayed at this park for the amount we paid, we feel we came out well ahead to find a park with full hookups and the amenities offered at the daily rate we paid..


I also said that they had a PAID Staff of around 10.. There are some members that volunteer from time to time, but they do not receive a free site.. Members are NOT required to volunteer to belong or use the park...

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We have been regional zone members for 2 years now. The program started during their 40 year anniversary a couple years ago. We have both of the current western zones. Our offering was successful and so they tried turning down the benefits a bit and so you now have 4 zones instead of 2 in the country. You pay $499 instead of $450 and you get 30 days and then $3 a night after that, I have as many nights as I can use while following the other restrictions, 2 weeks in 1 week out etc.

The best part about the zone membership is you can try it out for year and if it doesn't work for you then you don't renew. No large initial cost that you need to either sell to someone else or just eat.

Only you can say if the program will work for you. Are campgrounds in places you want to go? Are they the type of campgrounds you want to use? TT calls there campgrounds preserves, they don't have paved sitesmeticulouslyusly manicured landscaping. What they have is natural trees bushes and wildlife.

If you want to try it out without paying the zone fee go camp at one near you, most have some sites available for the public at $35-55 a night. BTW if you decide you want the zone before you leave they credit what you paid for your stay towards the $499.


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phil crouch wrote:

Hi westernrvparkowner.. Have you had a chance to check out the website??

They also have video's of the park on u tube..

Does it look like a park in decline??

Like I said, I never paid more than approx $10/day and that includes annual park fees.. In fact, when we first started going there, the daily fees were around $4 back in 1997, but have since had to raise them over time..

We bought a Resale for $800 and when we decided to leave, the new owner paid
$650, so we did take a hit there..
Over the years that we stayed at this park for the amount we paid, we feel we came out well ahead to find a park with full hookups and the amenities offered at the daily rate we paid..


I also said that they had a PAID Staff of around 10.. There are some members that volunteer from time to time, but they do not receive a free site.. Members are NOT required to volunteer to belong or use the park...
Looks like a nice park, but I hardly think it is representative of the average Thousand Trails property. You brought up the staff of 10, implyying that the park can operate on a very small staff. That is not mathmatically possible. Just manning the gate 24/365 takes 5 full time employees. Staffing the office 7 days a week at least 4 more. Still have to do groundskeeping, cleaning, maintance etc. Now we find out there are other workers, probably workampers rounding out the staff. Fine, but a little bit misleading in how much it takes to run a park. It also appears that the park is a timeshare like setup. There are many more memberships than there are sites. Is it possible there will be no spaces for you when you want to use your days? Or are there restrictions as to when you are guaranteed a spot? Nothing wrong at all with such a set up, especially if you plan on staying in Pahrump yearly. Enjoy your park, it looks very nice.

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I've been a 1000Trails zone member for almost a year. I've been to 4 of the parks. Two of them I would strongly recommend (TT Gloucester/Chesapeake Bay, and ODW Lake Gaston). The other two really weren't bad either (Williamsburg, VA and Harbor View outside DC)

I think it really depends on the campgrounds. It's you're looking for a campground that's perfectly manicured, and that feels like more of a 'theme park' than a campground, then TT is probably not for you.

For us, we only go to 3 or 4 different campgrounds per season, and we camp just about every other weekend. We've used 35 nights so far in our year, and the overage is only $3 per day.

If you're not sure if you'll like a TT campground, you can try it out at the standard rate of about $40 per night without a membership. There are a limited number of public sites available, so make sure you book early. You'll probably also be accosted by 1000trails salesmen, but they are usually friendly and helpful (for the most part).

Also, there are cheaper memberships if you're not sure you want to commit to a zone membership. For example, at readycampgo.com, you can get a 'discount' membership for as cheap as $49 per year that gives you 15 nights of $25 per night camping at ANY 1000 Trails across the country. They have 2 other tiers also, one at $99 per year for 30 days of $20 per night camping, and one at $199 for 60 days of of $20 per night camping. The disadvantage to these memberships is that you can only book 30 days ahead (increasing the chance of not getting a holiday weekend) and you can only stay for 7 days at a time.

Put it this way, 2 years ago, we spent over $3000 in overnight fees at public campgrounds. Last year I spent $515 for the same amount of camping (actually a little more), and the campgrounds were less crowded, and with roughly the same amenities, albeit slightly more rustic.

Bottom line is that I would absolutely recommend 1000Trails (at least in the VA area) to just about anyone that likes to camp frequently.


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