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While researching the Class B Winnebago Eyre, I discovered something very important for B+ owners.

For those here in the B+ forum who would like to see what appears to be a proper definition of a B+... it is a Class B campervan in Australia.

From Wikipedia:

“Class B campervan"

Built using a conventional van, to which either a raised roof has been added or the back replaced by a low-profile body (aka coach-built). In Australia, a Class B motorhome is quite distinct from a campervan, as it is based on a very large van that is, in turn, based on a truck. These motorhomes weigh up to 4500 kg and measure up to 6.4m in length. Popular vehicle makes include the Ford Trader and Isuzu NPR 300.

Most Australian campervans are based on much smaller vehicles such as the Toyota HiAce, while the middle ground is now populated by larger vans that blur the definition of campervan or motorhome. These include the Ford Transit, Mercedes Benz Sprinter, Fiat Ducato, and Iveco.”


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Yes it seems Wikepedia is Austrailian defining a class-B differently than here in North America.

Here is North America definitions of the classes........right?

Class-A starts with this.


Class-B starts with this.


Class-B+ & C starts with this.


* This post was edited 02/23/12 12:23pm by ron.dittmer *


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What's a bus conversion called? (Either/both Countries)


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Francesca Knowles wrote:

What's a bus conversion called? (Either/both Countries)

Bus or Coach conversiopn. If used as a small commuter Bus..Bus Conversion. Coach Converion for 40ft plus vehicles.

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Francesca Knowles wrote:

What's a bus conversion called? (Either/both Countries)


A schoolie... More seriously, the A, B, and C are definitions established by the industry association, RVIA, in the US. I don't know for sure, but doubt that they have a definition for 'bus conversion' other than however class A might apply.

Such things as DIY camper vans, school bus conversions, house trucks, etc, haven't ever been covered by the RVIA system, AFAIK, since they're not mass-produced. And I don't think all US mfgr's belong to the RVIA.

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burlmart wrote:

For those here in the B+ forum who would like to see what appears to be a proper definition of a B+... it is a Class B campervan in Australia."

From Wikipedia:

Wikipedia is out of date and wrong. Most Class B's are based on the Ducato, Sprinter, Transit , VW Crafter and Iveco Daily. "Ford Trader and NPR 300"???? Got it wrong there. The NQR 450 is used for larger Class C's.

A Campervan is generally smaller.Usually converted Toyota Hi Aces.

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Isuzu 450 based Class C.


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A Campervan is generally smaller.Usually converted Toyota Hi Aces.


So, Robert... does a "campervan" usually or always have this type of pop-top?

The original Winnebago that started this discussion... does it come from the factory as a van or a cutaway... or truck...


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RobertRyan wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

What's a bus conversion called? (Either/both Countries)

Bus or Coach conversiopn. If used as a small commuter Bus..Bus Conversion. Coach Converion for 40ft plus vehicles.
So...is it "size dependent"?
I'm interested in how such a conversion would be treated if confronted with "Class A-under-ten-years only" restrictions.

Seems unlikely that the guy at the gate would be calling the RVIA for direction in that department...

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mumkin wrote:

So, Robert... does a "campervan" usually or always have this type of pop-top?

The original Winnebago that started this discussion... does it come from the factory as a van or a cutaway... or truck..

I have seen the Ducato delivered to the factory as a cut away.
Campervans not all of them have a poptop, but because they are built on smallish Japanese/ Korean/European vans with small 2.2 Litre diesels, have the poptop to increase space.

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