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Since the 73 Arab oil embargo I've always assumed gas would eventually be very expensive so I only bought fuel efficient vehicles. My Toyota pickup with home built popup camper gets 30 mpg while towing a motorcycle if I take it easy. My car is an old Suzuki Swift that gets 40 town 50 highway but mostly I ride one of my motorcycles getting either 70 or 90 mpg.

Going the speed limit or slightly less and running a bit more pressure in the tires than recommended on the door frame makes a definite difference in mpg.

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LaunchnRetrieve wrote:

So, I'm wondering what you've done and what can be done to improve your MPG for both your travel rigs and for your commuter cars/trucks/SUVs.
I bought a Nissan Leaf last year for the commute and running errands. 13,000 miles so far with no gas, no oil changes.
I keep the F150 in storage to haul the trailer as needed.


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1995brave wrote:

Two weeks ago i paid $3.19/gal and drove to work at 70 MPH.
Yesterday i paid $3.45/gal and drove to work at 70 MPH.
I've been getting 22 MPG from my truck since i bought it new in 1998.

Looks like the gas prices haven't changed my driving habits, yet.


Ya know.... I would spend A LOT less in gas on my Santa Clarita to Hollywood round trip on the freeway if the rest of LA would get scared off by high gas prices and thin out the traffic jams. Just sayin'.

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I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.
That's nasty! My electric rate is right at 10 cents per kWh. I didn't think there were many places in the country over 20 cents.


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Your speed and where you go are about the only things you have that are in your control for improving your mileage. Speed in the main one so let those semis pass you if you must and slow down. It is the biggest (and hardest to do) fuel saver in your bag of tricks. There is NOTHING you can scotch tape or bolt onto your tow vehicle that will do as much to improve your mileage and most of the things that will help at ALL will either reduce your power or result in you burning more costly higher test fuel.
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Since I own a Volt I need to correct the incorrect knowledge that was posted. I average 35-45 miles on a charge. If you drive in freezing temperatures and run your heater on high you will probably get 25 miles. The Volt batteries are designed not to be fully discharged and always retain a residual charge.

You can only expend 10.6 KWH to go your 40 miles and I only pay 8.1 cent per KWH so my charge is 85 cents for a full charge. In the last 500 miles I have used .3 tenths of a gallon of gas. The cost of a Volt is also now discounted by dealers and has a $7500 tax credit so it does not cost 45K.

A lot of false information has been told about the Volt but it is an amazing machine that is fun to drive and made in America by Americans. I bought this car for a lot of reasons but economics was not the primary one. Speak to Volt owners and get first hand experiences before you make a judgment. I like what the Leaf owner said. If you want to increase your MPG do not use gas.

The inaccurate statements about the Volt are corrected by Snopes at www.snopes.com/politics/business/chevyvolt.asp

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Got you beat my moped get 100+ MPG, while the Motorhome is parked. I put about 4,000 miles a year on it. Was thinking on a electic scooter, but only an 18-25 mile range on a charge and 18-20 MPH. I at least can do 27 with this. have to be careful of the fast moving vehicles, so use the country and towns less traveled streets. Oh, No special license, registration or insurance costs either. Use my cost savings to keep the MH going. Irover

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Johno02 wrote:

This is my contributions to the effort. Confirms a lot about what we all know, just never thought it was worth much, as few of us are stupid enough to be fooled by the hype.

I have not done the research myself, and do not know where this originated, but here it is anyway

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Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

A reporter test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.

For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.

Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery.
So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours.
In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh
of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.

The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.

16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.

$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery.

Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.

$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs

$46,000.........you do the math."


I think your numbers are not correct. There is no way it would cost $18.56 to charge. I think you may have misplaced a decimal point. More likely your electric costs .116 per kwh.

Not necessarily a fan of Volt, there are better options.

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