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Posted: 02/27/12 08:48am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I may be wrong but isn't the battery disconnect just like a fancy blade style switch? you turn it off and the batteries are now completely segregated from the circut? If you are "Disconnecting" the batteries while the genny is running I'd think that is the problem, they are not getting a charge.. Again though, I'm not 100% but it seems logical to me.

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Posted: 02/27/12 09:02am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If the disconnect is between the converter/charger and batteries, you aren't charging the batteries. Would be the same if the disconnect is between the batteries and ground.

In my Weekend Warrior the disconnect is between the converter and fuse panel so it won't interfere with charging. Most disconnects are at the battery and will prevent charging.


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Posted: 02/27/12 09:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My battery disconnect is right inside the door near the bottom....blade/key-type switch. Up position is off, turn it to the right and it's on. So I assume its between the converter and the batteries, but not 100% positive.

Thanks for the replies! Keep the info coming! It is much appreciated!!

Didn't think we would go down the path of getting a trailer, but we have been enjoying every minute of it! Well worth the investment and these small issues!!

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From our experiance with our Onan 2800 Microlite, you can unintentionally force a shut down when you over tax the output such as several items demanding power at the same time maxing out the generators capacity. The symtom is as you described just before it quit. Surging will take place as it revs up to try and put out more power then back off because it cannot supply the demand then try again with same result then quit. Microwave, A/C or toaster have been the culprit in our dry camping experiance. I think this part of your issue is isolated from the no start problem. Your dead or low battery situation has me leaning towards others opinion that the cut off switch should be in the ON position in order for the house batteries to be charging while the Gen set is operating. You stumble on that possibility when you said you got home after not being able to turn the gen set over to start and at home you flipped the cutoff switch to ON after plugging in. At that time you were getting the needed juice to start your gen set from your shore power.

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I hadn't plugged it in yet last night but was able to turn it over and the batteries did have some juice. Weird....

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Not surprised that you did get some power from the battery. That's what I would expect from a good battery. They do recoup minimal amounts of power even from a recently dead condition when the battery is still has usable life left. As a further explanation on the effect of the cut off switch on your circutry. That feature is to eliminate any parasitic draw from your house battery drawing down your battery when in storage for long periods of time. A parasitic draw, in the event that is a new term to you, is one which even thou all your trailer appliances are shut off, some can still draw power to keep them on standby. or to keep providing power to eluminate displays like a clock face, or temperature control ceiling exhaust fans. In the case of the fan, the thermostat has a built in sensor that draws power even with the fan portion shut off. That's why some models have a positive OFF selection to shut down the sensor. Sooo... my take is that you are setting your cut off switch to off at the inappropriate times. It should be left in the on position even when you are plugged in or using your generator for power. That's the only way that I can think of by the description of your issue, that any recharging of the battery is going to take place.

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I checked batteries without generator running and they were at 11.9 and 12.0....plugged trailer in and will check again soon

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Battery switch should keep the battery connected while in use.
Can you post the brand and model of the converter that charges the battery?


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I agree with the others. The only time to turn off the battery switch is when you are not plugged into shore or not running the gen, and are storing for a long period of time. I also agree with the surging issue is overloading the gen. Keep the lights off and power demands down, even if your running the gen. Gen's are made for emergency (dry camping)type situations, not to run full power. If you want to run flood lights and tv's and stereo's along with the A/C then you will have to continue to take your big gen.
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Yes, the more I read the more I realize that running the generator should be during the day a few hours when dry camping to maintain battery health. Unless of course it is super hot and I want to run the AC to cool down the trailer.

I am going to recheck the batteries tomorrow after having the trailer plugged in for 24 hours (leaving the battery switch ON of course). Can't believe I have been doing the opposite all this time.....ugh....

To hoss1045, now that we have been out half a dozen times already this year, we are hooked! Even if its for 24 hours, its like a mini vacation!

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