I have heard that the price tag on the new urea system on diesels is going to increase the price tag of diesels up to $10,000. We may not see that amount in this recession but as we pull out of the recession that is quite a bit of an increase for EPA air control. Especially when new pickups already are upwards of $50,000. It just seems like they could do a lot more. I do realize you not only have to build vehicles you also have to find a large enough market to make money. I really hate to see the V10 go away in the F250 and F350. We live in a very cold climate and I went to the V10 Vs the diesel because diesels not run everyday in very cold weather sometimes have problems starting. Since we only drove our 2000 7.3L diesel to town every couple of weeks it was a problem that I don't have with the V10. I traded that diesel after the fuel turned to jelly at 60 below zero on the way to town. Breaking down in 60 below zero weather is an experience I never want to repeat.
However, all that said, buying a pickup capable of towing a good sized TT, 5Ver etc really requires a diesel engine now that the V10 is going away in F250 and F350. The answer I see on the truck forums is the H & S computer system for diesels. Completely re-programing the diesel engine, including the urea system.
feed all winter with a 1466 international. pretty sure it gets as cold here in riverton as it doe's there in powell.
i think you also misinformed about the price of urea systems.
as far as a v10..................... i can remember when a straight 8 flat heads were around.
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There's a lot left to do to gasoline engines to make them more fuel efficient and powerful. Turbo charging (EcoBoost like), direct injection, and the new technology Mazda is using to get hybrid like mpg out of a non-hybrid vehicle (SKYACTIV) are all technologies that will soon be in more and more tow vehicles. Especially as diesel becomes a less popular option due to being choked by emissions, complicated technology, and potentially huge repair bills.
You can buy a whole new gas engine and get it installed for what the fuel or exhaust system costs to replace on a new diesel.
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People don't want to admit it but power sells when towing or racing.
Agree 100%. If truck users wanted mileage instead of power, the Cummins diesel used in pickups would still have 160 hp, but get 25-30 mpg empty. It would still tow 10000 pounds or so- about 30 mph up a mountain pass, which is not acceptable to today's truck user. Today guys want a 350+ hp engine that will tow that load up the pass at 60, at the expense of fuel mileage.
Also agree with TnP on the hp issue. It takes torque to go up a hill, but horsepower is what determines how fast you go up the hill.
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