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Posted: 04/11/12 04:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:

NewsW wrote:




First.

There is no cause for alarm.

The failure rate is in the low single digits (AFAIK) and there is no reason to think it is more --- until proven otherwise.






Funny two weeks and 2,000 posts ago the sky was falling, Bosch was going to drag Ford GM and Audi down with it and anyone was crazy if they even thought of buying something with a CP4. Now it's no big deal.


I was thinking the same thing?

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Sometimes, the wheels of honor take a long time to come around.


Has it ever came around for the owners of the 6.0 or 6.4? A lot of those owners are still twisting in the wind on the end of a Ford made rope. Seem to me 7,8,9 years is enough waiting.


NewsW - the ultimate Ford fanboy.

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All i have to say is at Ford Quality Is Job 1


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Posted: 04/11/12 08:32pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The rope is now replaced by kite string Turtle. Faster death falling. (except for the stubborn ones) And we all know dead men tell no tales
Oh yeah I forgot to mention "BUMP"


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Posted: 04/11/12 09:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

NewsW wrote:




The same bunch that promote:

- EGR delete
- "hot" FICM
- Tuners
- CCV vent to atmosphere

And many utterly useless at best, or damaging mods.

There is no connection in their mind between deleting the EGR and raising combustion temperature, which in turn, raises the cooling system load (not even talking of NOx), which in turn had to be corrected by the ECM by derating the engine (mild limp) which then cripples mileage and performance, that in turn, have to be "corrected" by a tuner which then spoofs the motor into power output way beyond the reliability zone (and legal emission zone), and in turn, more stresses on the cooling system, head gaskets, etc. which in turn need to be fixed by ARPs, which in turn has to be fixed by...
You cite the very reasons why, with the exception of a coolant filter, my truck with a 6.0 liter engine is bone stock.


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W4RLR wrote:

You cite the very reasons why, with the exception of a coolant filter, my truck with a 6.0 liter engine is bone stock.



The blue spring (factory mod kit) to raise fuel pressure is proven.

Another proven trick is to not turn off the engine right away after a long hard pull on a hot day, but to wait 1 or 2 minutes for the turbo and so on to cool down a bit.

Turbo drain back tube (improved via factory) is another good thing.

STC fitting mod (factory) is a good thing if you need it or your fitting shows signs of failure.

Update the flash is good.

If you haven't had the EGR valve cleaned since 2009, do so.

Never let biodiesel near it.

Have fun.

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Ricatic, was your 50 gallon Titan tank an issue during the warranty denial? Just curious, as I am running a 65 gallon Titan. Thanks for your time.

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OldGreaser wrote:

Ricatic, was your 50 gallon Titan tank an issue during the warranty denial? Just curious, as I am running a 65 gallon Titan. Thanks for your time.


no...all parties knew it was there and it was never mentioned...there was no evidence of water ever being in the Titan tank. I believe Ford intentionally overlooked the Titan tank because to bring it into the equation would have only further destroyed the pitiful evidence that Ford used to screw me over...Shame on Ford

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Question for Weibull,

Does your reliability toolkit support a Duane-AMSAA analysis? If your failures are dated you should be able to tell if the MTBF is increasing which could mean a running design change in the pump has been made. Just a thought, it's easy to ask others to do such things. I don't have that software anymore.

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Posted: 04/13/12 05:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Time for an update here.

Can everyone do a scan of other forums and see if there are new reported cases of failures?

Ford, GM are primary interest, VW next.

Did everything die down?

Which could indicate something changed.

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Posted: 04/13/12 06:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

There is no update because there was never a problem to begin with. Just a few isolated incidents blown way out of proportion.

n-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=">Where are the GM problems?

These chicken little threads remind me of lippert frames; one blowhard has a problem and now every product sold buy that company is doomed for failure.

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