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Posted: 03/02/12 02:45pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I could not find anything on the search about this. I have searched the internet widely about ladder bars for a 2 wheel drive Ford F-350 dually and cannot find them,only for 4x4's. I have some axle rap when starting off with my 13000 lb fiver and wanted to add some ladder bars to help with it. Has anyone out there put some on their 2wd truck and what brand. It is amazing the amount the srings roll when accelerating with that much weight in tow.I saw a bunch on you tube.


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When I was involved in drag racing we called them traction bars.


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Shouldn't the ones for the 4x4s fit? I mean, aren't they the same from the cab back?


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How long do you plan to keep this truck? The reason I ask is there are companies that offer complete rear air suspension systems. There are a couple that use the existing spring hangers for the trail arms. My thought is rather than put a band-aid on the issue, why not go to a full air system a fix the wrap problem for good? Of course this will be costly which is why asked how long you'll keep the truck. If you keep it a long time the air kit makes sense. If you're only keeping it a couple years it's not worth the cost.

On edit, I found a link to one of the systems I was thinking about.
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Posted: 03/02/12 05:18pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not trying to be a smarty britches, but if you are using the truck within the design parameters of the OEM, and it appears you are, why not let the suspension react as it was designed?


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are you looking for ladder or traction bars ?

the 2 are very different. Very likely you only need traction bars.

Ladder Bars,


Classic Traction Bars,


a better version of traction bars more commonly found on trucks,



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That bottom one is actually a cheap piece of junk and will end up either breaking off or bending the frame and then breaking off. That C channel frame is not design for that kind of stress and would need to be at the least closed up for several inches either side of the mount. The bar and joints are cheap tractor hitch bars and wear quickly and loosen up with mucho slack.
Ladder bars are an even worse solution for a non existent problem for a truck used inside its design parameters.
Leave the suspension alone is my best advice.

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jjj wrote:

I could not find anything on the search about this. I have searched the internet widely about ladder bars for a 2 wheel drive Ford F-350 dually and cannot find them,only for 4x4's. I have some axle rap when starting off with my 13000 lb fiver and wanted to add some ladder bars to help with it. Has anyone out there put some on their 2wd truck and what brand. It is amazing the amount the srings roll when accelerating with that much weight in tow.I saw a bunch on you tube.
Are you having vibration when taking off if so there is a tsb out that will shim down the carrier bearing and correct it. what year do you have and is it crew cab long bed. its most common in these models.

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jjj. your type truck us widely used for towing all sorts of trailers and loads. Being into racing and having tons of buds with similar trucks...none have ever complained or had issues with spring wrap up. Are you sure your having a "wide up" situation and not feeling something that is considered normal or have something else not proper? Are the rear shocks worn out or leaking? They control axle movement and could possibly create an abnormal feel or movement pending how hard you stab the throttle on take offs...just some ideas for you to consider


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Posted: 03/02/12 11:59pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you think that truck rides rough now just slap a set of ladder bars on it.


Both of the race cars I have driven had ladder bars on them with full floating bird cages on them. Dump trucks I have driven had better rides.


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