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Posted: 03/07/12 05:58pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

a quick visit to the wilson website, or other sites who sell their product would answer most of the OP's questions. I'm waiting to order the sleek for Verizon 4g LTE when it comes out.


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I've found that the distance seperation that Wilson recomends on the web site is VERY conservative, at least for my applications. With the sleek booster a seperation of only a few feet between inside and outside antennas or cradles doesn't trigger any oscillation.


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wcjeep wrote:

The Wilson Verizon 4g sleek will be out June 1st. I have two Wilson Sleek boosters and a 3 watt booster. These are great tech. Wilson boosters are also power adaptable. If the full 3 Watts is not necessary the power is throttled. This cuts down on noise clutter for the cell tower. I heard some lower cost units only work at full power. The 3g sleek is on Amazon for about $85. I have one in my Jeep for calling for spare parts or medical aide.


Unless something changed since CDMA was introduced any amp that works with CDMA (Verizon, sprint etc.) must be able to adjust power output. CDMA adjusts the phone and base station output power to a certain BER (bit error rate) which it can correct for. that is one of the tricks to maximizes channel capacity. if a phone doesn't reduce power when requested by the base station, the call will be dropped and if the phone does it enough times, it will trigger an error and the phone may become non functional.

I'm not sure if GSM (ATT) requires any power control of the phone output power.

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LEARJET - Thanks for the reminder of doing research first. I do alot of research on-line before bothering anyone but sometimes you dont know what to call things before you start looking for them.

Recently I broke this latch in my POPUP that holds the trailer hinged door to the ceiling of the POPUP when lowering the top for travel mode. I looked and looked and never could find anything in the fastener world that matched it... I bet I looked for a couple of weeks.Even my owners manual didnt list the proper name of it.

What would you this thing - no fair looking at the photo properties...


One quick post of what is this and someone has been there before.

Who would have dreamed the proper name for this item is a "TURN BUTTON"

The biggest thing I learned from my posts here was the interference of the outside antenna to the inside antenna. Three watts RF output is alot of power and in my case installing all of this in my OFF-ROAD POPUP with fabric tent sides and all I dont have much isolation components if any at all... Some installation plans want you to have 15-20 feet of vertical isolation. Others say only five-feet. I bet it will need at least 50db of isolation between the two antennas. My best bet would be to use a direct RG cable connection to my Verizon MIFI Unit but my older model doesnt have an external antenna connection. Even getting any horizontal antenna isolation is going to be a problem for me as well. My trailer box is only 12-feet and very little metal involved in the walls....

SO I broke down on this one and asked the experts.

I will be closing down the post pretty soon...


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Posted: 03/08/12 10:08am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

the sleek doesn't have an oscillation problem
because basically its a "near contact" transference
the output power of the cradle is limited to inductance levels

the same for cradle receiver sensitivity

the mifi or cell phone must be in the cradle, the external antenna can be only a few feet away (direct line) on the car roof

my sleek antenna is about 6 feet from the cradle and inside the mh in the forward overhead cabinet, only open air and a thin amount of cabinet wood with a glass door between them

if you plan on putting the outside antenna on a pole the sleek should work fine in your pup

units designed to work inside the rv with your cell phone in your hand while you set in your easy chair, must be installed in a manner that prevents oscillation

* This post was edited 03/08/12 10:16am by MrWizard *


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I'm waiting for the Sleek 4g LTE for Verizon for my Samsung MIFI unit also. What Mr. Wizard said, The Sleek looks like your answer.

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A good source for information would be to contact the 3G Store they have a wealth of information and understand the RVing needs.


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See this link: for wireless installation , and for direct connect and another wireless connect

These are all 4g lte only, and another amp is needed for CDMA/3G use.

MrWizard wrote:

AFAIK thete are No amps currently on the market that handle verizon lte 4g



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