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What's illegal about that setup??????????? Over the rear axle ratings on the car....I promise.

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MadMav wrote:

What's illegal about that setup??????????? Over the rear axle ratings on the car....I promise.

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Unlikely. 300-400lbs of tongue weight distributed with a weight-distributing hitch. I can almost guarantee that there's is little more weight on the rear wheels than if you put a couple 200-lb guys in the back seat.

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I'll bet the farm that the reason they use the SHO was the upgraded suspension/tires. A lot cheaper having them already on the TV than having to purchase and install upgrades.
Many of Can-Am's conversion require upgraded tires and suspension parts. I remember about 10 years ago they took a small Dodge sedan type and towed the same type 31 footer Airstream. But it did need upgraded tires and a lot of welded in bracing in the rear of the car. IIRC it came out about $5300 including the Hensley hitch.


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Admittedly, I didn't perform my due diligence... I thought it was a twenty-something footer, not a thirty-one.

However, a thousand pounds is nothing.... Myself, three stocky buddies, and our golf bags doesn't seem like an unreasonable load for a Taurus, does it?

I'm sure at 1000#, a Taurus would be at or over GVWR. IIRC, they use the 154# average per the number of seatbelts to determine a cargo capacity. Assuming a Taurus is a 5 seater, it likely can carry around 700 - 800# payload. The other thing is that a passenger & golf bag load isn't suspended all at one point 3 to 4' behind the rear axle; it's much closer to the CG, and dispersed. Big difference.

Ford says a Taurus SHO weighs about 4300#. They also say it has a max trailer tow rating of 1000#. I couldn't find the Taurus SHO GVWR anywhere on the web.
Still not something I'd do or recommend.


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gijoecam wrote:

MadMav wrote:

What's illegal about that setup??????????? Over the rear axle ratings on the car....I promise.

Mav


Unlikely. 300-400lbs of tongue weight distributed with a weight-distributing hitch. I can almost guarantee that there's is little more weight on the rear wheels than if you put a couple 200-lb guys in the back seat.

I don't know where you are getting those numbers from. If you get factual data, it's a little different.

The video clearly states that RV is an Airstream 31' Classic.
Specs for that unit are:
- 10,000# GVWR
- 805# hitch weight
- 7174# base weight (no options)

Airstream 31' Classic Specs

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ib516 wrote:

gijoecam wrote:

MadMav wrote:

What's illegal about that setup??????????? Over the rear axle ratings on the car....I promise.

Mav


Unlikely. 300-400lbs of tongue weight distributed with a weight-distributing hitch. I can almost guarantee that there's is little more weight on the rear wheels than if you put a couple 200-lb guys in the back seat.

I don't know where you are getting those numbers from. If you get factual data, it's a little different.

The video clearly states that RV is an Airstream 31' Classic.
Specs for that unit are:
- 10,000# GVWR
- 805# hitch weight
- 7174# base weight (no options)

Airstream 31' Classic Specs


Admittedly, I didn't perform my due diligence... I thought it was a twenty-something footer, not a thirty-one.

However, a thousand pounds is nothing.... Myself, three stocky buddies, and our golf bags doesn't seem like an unreasonable load for a Taurus, does it?

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I'd be more concerned about the unit body construction of the Taurus becoming fatigued and cracking at the hitch bolts after a few trips than anything else. I installed a 2" receiver on our 2010 Escape for our bicycle rack. I wouldn't feel comfortable towing with it. That and it looks like cool damp weather in the video. Not a huge radiator and trans cooler in the Taurus. To each his own but for "my" comfort, if it needs WD, air bags or some heavy over-engineered contraption in the receiver, it needs more TV. Our local AS dealer brings them in with a HD pickup and no WD or sway control. Just a ball in a solid ball mount. I like that idea better.


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carringb wrote:

Ford Flex = exact same platform, and is rated to tow 4500 pounds WITH 7 passengers.

...with a max of 450# tongue weight, and limited to 35 sq ft frontal area which on a 7.5' wide RV would make it have to be under 5' tall. FLEX towing guide. I couldn't find any reference to the claim that the Flex can tow 4500# AND carry 7 passengers. I'd be willing to bet big dollars that would exceed it's GCWR.

If you check the TAURUS TOWING GUIDE, the regular (non-EcoBoost) Taurus is rated to tow 1000# max with a 100# max tongue weight. The EcoBoost model's tow rating is zero. It doesn't have one. Ford specifically states that model is not designed to tow. Given that, put a hitch on your Taurus SHO and you can kiss your powertrain warranty good bye.

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Ford Flex = exact same platform, and is rated to tow 4500 pounds WITH 7 passengers.


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Garfield wrote:

One thing that I think should be noted about Andy Thomson and Can-Am is that they don't try to steer anyone away from driving a truck -- if a truck is what you want they're more than willing to set you up accordingly. But fortunately they offer carefully thought-out solutions for the rest of us too.


I beg to differ, about 10 years ago Andy personally did his very best to tell me what "I" wanted and needed and become quite cold and hostile when we were looking for our first fifth wheel and did not come to his perspective.
Needless to say we walked away without purchasing anything from their delaership.
Now they sell DRV Mobile Suites which I think will end up being our retirement rig, but I am having a hard time going back to them with the bad taste in my mouth that he left me with.


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