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Posted: 03/19/12 05:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sounds like you will be exceeding the capacity of the van. Your only saving grace is that you are not going far. If you do this once or twice a year maybe OK. If you plan to tow it often (even a short distance) consider other options.


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The van is a 2002, and it has a 5.0L engine?

I thought the last year for the 5.0L engine was 1998? Are you sure this van doesn't have a 5.3L?


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Why are people ok with him towing for short trips vs long? That doesn't make it any safer. Most accidents happen close to home.

Frankly you have to start and stop the same amount of weight whether you are going 1 mile or 1000 miles.

And thanks for NOT being concerned with the safety of others.


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Ok, so i picked it up yesterday and towed it home. Not the best 16 miles i have ever driven! Not horrible either. I looked at the tow rating for my 6cyl. Manual transmission chevy and that tow rating was 7500 lbs. Anyone ever towed a 30 ft trailer with a 6cyl. Chevy work truck?

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JN_B wrote:

sigh...

Why are people ok with him towing for short trips vs long? That doesn't make it any safer. Most accidents happen close to home.

Frankly you have to start and stop the same amount of weight whether you are going 1 mile or 1000 miles.

And thanks for NOT being concerned with the safety of others.


its not a safety thing. Its a performance thing.

towing without brakes, now that is a safety thing.

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We can analyze this towing scenario all sorts of ways. Safety vs. performance etc. etc. But in the end the OP needs a more capable TV.

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its not a safety thing. Its a performance thing.


That's EXACTLY the same thing.

If a TV can not perform properly (brake & accelerate), it is every bit a safety issue for OP & us.

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Gm's tow weight charts mean VERY little after a conversion. The changes made are eating up alot (possibly 1/2 or more) of the payload. Toyhaulers tend to have HEAVY pin / tounge weights without toys. The extra heavy tounge + the conversion eating up a bunch of the payload may not be the best idea.

As far as the pickup, don't load to much int he bed and you should be fine, just watch the clutch from a standstill.


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JN_B wrote:

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its not a safety thing. Its a performance thing.


That's EXACTLY the same thing.

If a TV can not perform properly (brake & accelerate), it is every bit a safety issue for OP & us.


And if the OP's van meets the minimum speed specs, braking etc that the jurisdiction he is driving in, but not the manufactures engineers specs which may or may not be higher, he is over the manufactures ratings......is he unsafe or illegal? reality is, he is not illegal, as he meets the jurisdictions specs, unsafe, well that too is a personal opinion.

I would probably tow the toyhauler with the pickup before the van personally, as it will have the payload for the hitch wt. Have the spouse/child follow in the van. But even then the pickup may be on the slow side. I doubt either will be as slow on hills as the heavier semi's on the road. The payload or lack of on the van will be the safety part that will kill that rig. GCWR will not be the issue if pulled over.

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Guys,

I appreciate all of the different points of view. I suppose it doesn't take a genius to see that I put the cart before the horse in this scenario. I do know that I will not put a single family member in either vehicle while I take it to our camp sight. I am not that naive. I did talk to alot of the RV guys in my area prior to this purchase and was told that it should be fine....and from a simple " can I tow it from A to B", yes I was fine. I just don't have the warm and fuzzy to put my wife and kids in it yet. We have started talking to our local Van dealer in finding us a 1 ton Hi top handicapped equipped van....we'll be fine then.

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