I remeber a couple years ago while staying at Lakewood in Myrtle Beach in August, that we were parked next to a pop up from Canada. There were 2 adults and about 4 or 5 teens staying in it. It seemed like a lot, but probably because they were all in the pop up. And it had no a/c. I saw their tag in their vehicle and they were going to be there several weeks if not a month. More power to them...lol Although I did take my wife and stepson camping there in a tent in August about 13 yrs ago, but it was only for a weekend...lol
westernrvparkowner wrote: My parks are limited to 6, no exceptions. We are not in a position to judge whether or not it is a family unit, or someone taking the entire neighborhood on a trip. Of course your kids are well behaved, we have never, ever had a person tell us "Good decision, my kids are a bunch of hellions." In reality, it has everything to do with the comfort and convenience of all the guests. You may not be happy we turned down your reservation request, but the people who have the sites on either side of you probably are.
Another reason not to stay in a KOA in Montana.
Is that the one for sale? lol
Guessed that ruffled some feathers. I was referring to one I saw a few months ago for sale on the KOA website in Montana and for a good price...
westernrvparkowner wrote: My parks are limited to 6, no exceptions. We are not in a position to judge whether or not it is a family unit, or someone taking the entire neighborhood on a trip. Of course your kids are well behaved, we have never, ever had a person tell us "Good decision, my kids are a bunch of hellions." In reality, it has everything to do with the comfort and convenience of all the guests. You may not be happy we turned down your reservation request, but the people who have the sites on either side of you probably are.
Another reason not to stay in a KOA in Montana.
Is that the one for sale? lol
Guessed that ruffled some feathers. I was referring to one I saw a few months ago for sale on the KOA website in Montana and for a good price...
The real question is: Is it a good price for the buyer or for the seller? I have been looking at a few parks in Montana to buy and haven't found one that made financial sense from a buying point of view. Most are asking 11 or even 12 times net earnings, too rich for my blood.
I have also found that is will vary on immediate family and sometimes ages. We have the 3 kids but will also take my mother in law and sometimes sister in law and boys which may be 9. Some say as long as you don't have more that the camper and the tent (which some charge extra for the tent). Some will ask the relation and some (most) want extra money which we pay. Just be honest and usually they or the manager (owner) will understand. Sometimes they want you to pay for 2 sites or book both sites. It may also depend on the time of year and what activities or ammenities they are having at the time. If you can't get satisfaction just move on.
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I was just coming here to post this exact issue. We are a family of 9; mom, dad, and 7 bio kids. We just booked a KOA in Dayton for this spring since I have to be there for a class and hubby would rather kid wrangle in a campground than a hotel room. They limit to 6, but fortunately we are leaving our 3 teenagers at home. Last year at the state park, the limit was 8 but she got a special exemption because we were a nuclear family with all minors. We are camping at a private campground this summer and we reserved 2 sites for other reasons and the lady said that was good, since 8 was the state law for a max per site. Now, I understand not wanting to have Woodstock on a site, but it seems like they are discriminating against those who have more than the accepted 2.5 children per couple. We all fit in our camper, we are a family as much as the next campsite and I claim them all on my taxes. If they are all minor children of a couple, it seems like it should not be a problem. And if they are a problem because of rowdiness, then kick people out because they are rowdy, not because the have a larger than average family.
In my line more kids means more money comin in, if your not set up for that I guess you'd be kinda tired of excessive amounts. Bet Disneyland wouldnt turn down more children.
vladen wrote: In my line more kids means more money comin in, if your not set up for that I guess you'd be kinda tired of excessive amounts. Bet Disneyland wouldnt turn down more children.
Disney very much limits the occupancy in their rooms.
thewaggonerfamily- I could be wrong but I never heard of a state that would limit the number of people on a site. I thought it was always the parks rules. And if it was a state law then why are there different numbers for different parks.?????? I just wonder.
thewaggonerfamily wrote: I was just coming here to post this exact issue. We are a family of 9; mom, dad, and 7 bio kids. We just booked a KOA in Dayton for this spring since I have to be there for a class and hubby would rather kid wrangle in a campground than a hotel room. They limit to 6, but fortunately we are leaving our 3 teenagers at home. Last year at the state park, the limit was 8 but she got a special exemption because we were a nuclear family with all minors. We are camping at a private campground this summer and we reserved 2 sites for other reasons and the lady said that was good, since 8 was the state law for a max per site. Now, I understand not wanting to have Woodstock on a site, but it seems like they are discriminating against those who have more than the accepted 2.5 children per couple. We all fit in our camper, we are a family as much as the next campsite and I claim them all on my taxes. If they are all minor children of a couple, it seems like it should not be a problem. And if they are a problem because of rowdiness, then kick people out because they are rowdy, not because the have a larger than average family.
Not sure what the issue is with having to reserve two sites if your over the limit they set? I'm sure you are accustom to paying for 9 tickets for a movie or admission to any other activity you take the entire family to. Why would camping be different if they want to limit a specific number per site? You can make the argument that it's only 1 over or 3 over depending on if the limit is 6 or 8 at a particular campground but what about the family that had 10 kids? or 14? They should have to get two sites because they are way over but being only over 1 is just a little bend of the rule? There is no number that makes everyone happy and negatively affects no one. Where ever it is drawn ends up costing someone at that number more when forced to get a second or more sites.
Campgrounds don't want to have to get into verifying proof that these (Name the number) kids are really their children or not. Too much work, too much "Well you let that group of 9 in one site" from the parents that have 4 kids and 2 of their kids brough a friend for a total of 8.
A simple head count and nothing more makes it easy for the campground folks.
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But the difference is that I am paying for one site for me to park one camper (That is smaller than some Motorhomes that retiree couples have) on for my one family. It is a group site, not an individual site. We are one group unit. When I go to the camp store I will gladly buy nine ice cream cones. But we also don't own 2 houses because we are a larger than average family. We buy one campfire's worth of firewood. Because we choose to live a little cozier than the average American's need for huge square footage shouldn't matter to anyone else. For hotels, the reason is for the fire marshall, but that is not an issue for renting a few square feet of ground. Are you going to start charging by the feet your camper is, or charge if a tenter has a a tent and a screen room? What does any of it matter if you stay within the boundaries of your camp site and don't disturb others? People are making assumptions about a large family that oftentimes aren't true. For example, our family of nine spends less on groceries than my single MIL or my single dad. We also would probably consume less electricity than the majority of flat screened, gps'ed, satellite TV'ing, high tech motorhome dwellers. Even though we have electric lights, we prefer out Coleman lanterns. Perhaps full-timers should have to pay double since they tax the system more than recreational campers? Or people who bring a pet should have to rent an extra site because pets take up a lot of square footage?
I don't think there should be any numerical qualification for renting a site, I think it should be behavior based. If you stay within your site and don't bother your neighbors, or cause problems, it shouldn't matter if you have one person or nine or if they are related to you or not. Rent the site and get rid of the nanny state. If the people on a site are a problem because of their behavior, get rid of them. Don't have discriminatory, intellectually dishonest rules.
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