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bhfisher

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Posted: 03/22/12 08:41am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I just pickup a 1986 Bounder 34 (gas) with 28,000 miles. I do not know the history much on this RV.

What are your feeling about replacing oils on this such as transmission and rear end?

Do these oils go bad over time assuming they are original?

What about flushing the engine before changing its oil? I read somewhere to add ATF fluid before changing to clean it first?

Thanks, Bart


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Posted: 03/22/12 08:51am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No ATF in the engine!!

All fluids in that rig need changing....better think about brake fluid too!!!!

If you really want to flush the engine...but enough oil of the PROPER GRADE....thats CHEAP...fill with a new filer...run it 150-200 miles total...and drain again installing some GREAT oil of the proper grade with a NEW premium filter and have fun


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Personally, if I did not know any of the service history, I would replace ALL fluids.
Not sure I'd bother with an engine oil flush unless the stuff in there looks like treacle!


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Posted: 03/22/12 09:21am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

And don't forget the brake fluid!!!

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Many years ago, in the military, there was a maintenance program know as IRAN (Inspect, Replace As Necessary). Or was it IROAN (Inspect, Replace ONLY As Necessary)?
Anyway, the point being, doing unnecessary work is expensive and wasteful.
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If the engine oil is not dirty, and does not smell like fuel, why replace it? Oil is not like gasoline, it does not "rot" over time. If you feel you just have to do a change, run the engine and drive it far enough to get it fully up to operating temperature, then drain the oil, change the filter, and fill with fresh oil. In other words, do it RIGHT!
Transmission oil; again, it does not spoil with age. If it is clear, and does not look or smell burnt, and the transmission shifts properly, you can probably leave it alone.
Differential oil; same thing.
Brake fluid; If it is clear, with no apparent dirt or cloudiness, and the brakes work good with a firm feel to the pedal, it is probably OK. If it is not clear, flush the system.
Grease zerks: Lubricate ALL of them. Pump grease in S-L-O-W-L-Y until fresh grease appears. Use extreme caution on joints sealed with rubber boots. Do not pump so much in that the boots swell up! If there is a CV joint in the drive shaft, don't forget the needle fitting in the middle of the joint!
Engine coolant: If it is the proper color, and looks clear, have it tested to be sure the additives haven't disappeared. If it looks at all suspicious, have the cooling system flushed and install new coolant mixed to at least -20 degrees F. Remember, it is not only anti-FREEZE, it is anti BOIL also. The mixture has to be adequate for both. I do not recommend any "do-it-yourself" radiator cleaning chemicals. Perhaps some of them work, but many are useless, IMO. Have the system cleaned, back flushed, and pressure tested by a professional, and you can be relatively sure it is done to the highest quality standards. If the rig overheats, it has been my experience that you might as well not try to avoid it, pull the radiator and have it cleaned, pressure tested, and flow tested. I once fought my old motorhome for a couple of seasons, replaced everything but the radiator, but it still would overheat. I removed the radiator and found the fins completely plugged with bug guts and dirt behind the A/C condenser where it couldn't be seen. Had it cleaned and tested, and no more overheating! Sure wish I had done that FIRST!
Good luck with your "new" rig.


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The mileage looks like it sat a lot. Add tires if they over 8 years old or have crack in them, hoses, and belts also.





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Welcome to the forum.
Change all the fluids and at least check the belts/hoses, replace if neeeded. It will be cheap insurance in the long run.

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I would be more concerned with belts, hoses, and tires than with the oils. We owned an 87 bounder and my wife still thinks it was one of the best coaches ever. My biggest complaint was the steering; it was a constant battle to keep it in my lane. After about 4 hours of driving I would be exhausted. I don't know if they had all the after market steering assists then but I sure needed one and would have purchased it if I knew then what I know now.
Good luck and enjoy your new rig.


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All major mfg's have scheduled maintenance which includes all fluid changes. Moisture even gets into brake fluid, and power steering fluid. The first thing I did when I bought my used MH was to have every fluid changed and replaces with synthetic fluid where possible. It is cheaper to change your fluids then change your engine, trans, and rear.

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Thanks Guys... Good hints were posted

Bart

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