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FIRE UP

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Posted: 03/23/12 12:13pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ladies and Gents,
I've been seeing a few threads here and there about installing residential fridges in M/Hs. While the thought of a more "effecient" fridge is enticing, I'm wondering about something. Now, to the best of my knowledge, those residential fridges are only 110V AC correct?
So, if that's the case, then I'm ASSUMING that a vast majority, maybe say, 98% of the folks that install those aftermarket or, even have them installed at the factory are NOT boon docker campers. I certainly could be wrong but, I'm just guessing here.

The reason, unless you're going to run your generator 24/7, wouldn't those eat up a set of house batteries through the inverter in short order? Now, I don't even know anyone who's got a res. fridge in their coach so, I'm just speculating here. I've generally had great luck with all the fridges that came in our campers and coaches so, at present, and, for the most part, in the future, I don't think I'll ever consider converting to one.

Those that have must like them, I'm assuming. But, again, just wondering here. I guess it would stand to reason that most if not all that have res. fridges would use campgrounds/RV resorts with full hookups close to 100% of the time.
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Posted: 03/23/12 12:37pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You are absolutely correct. Either keep you RV refrigerator or give up boondocking! Easy decision for us.

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A two edge sword, I would like to have the res fridge because of the additional inside space but like to stop at Wally World for an overnighter. I know the fridge will chill and hold chill for over 8 hours but I don’t want to run the gen that much considering the cost of fuel.


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Hi, I think you got it right. I have both and I don't know of any way to get AC without an inverter. The AC one I have outside, I have ran while driving because my engine keeps the batteries charged. Even with massive collectors on the roof, the sun only shines during the day. I think that you would have to run something or connect to the grid almost every day to keep the batteries charged enough for the inverters to work, they cut off at about 11 volts. charlie in texas

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crabbin cabin wrote:

You are absolutely correct. Either keep you RV refrigerator or give up boondocking! Easy decision for us.
??? Why? You could always do this:

And he hauls a Jeep in there too!


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In our case, we have 540w solar and the fridge would NOT run the battery bank down. The fridge must be an energy compliant model and I know of folks that have gone over 3 days boondocking without solar and had no problems. These newer model fridges are very very energy efficient. We were going to an Amish conversion on our Norcold, but after the problem with the door heater and burned cabinet, we will now go residential when we change it out and we do a lot of boondocking.


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FIRE UP wrote:

Ladies and Gents,
I've been seeing a few threads here and there about installing residential fridges in M/Hs. While the thought of a more "effecient" fridge is enticing, I'm wondering about something. Now, to the best of my knowledge, those residential fridges are only 110V AC correct?
So, if that's the case, then I'm ASSUMING that a vast majority, maybe say, 98% of the folks that install those aftermarket or, even have them installed at the factory are NOT boon docker campers. I certainly could be wrong but, I'm just guessing here.

The reason, unless you're going to run your generator 24/7, wouldn't those eat up a set of house batteries through the inverter in short order? Now, I don't even know anyone who's got a res. fridge in their coach so, I'm just speculating here. I've generally had great luck with all the fridges that came in our campers and coaches so, at present, and, for the most part, in the future, I don't think I'll ever consider converting to one.

Those that have must like them, I'm assuming. But, again, just wondering here. I guess it would stand to reason that most if not all that have res. fridges would use campgrounds/RV resorts with full hookups close to 100% of the time.
Scott


I cant answer for others but hopfully you will get more input.
We have a residential and 90% of the time we boondock.
To avoid having to run the genny as much we have installed 690 watts of solar and an AGS system.
You may well be correct that most use full hookups, but it is feasible to boondock for extended periods when set up to do so.


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I have a residential fridge, I boondock for 7 days at a time and run my gen 2 hrs a day during the fall and spring which I did anyway when I had the Norcold due energy needs to do other energy demanding activities. For me, boondocking during the summer requires 24/7 gen use anyway where I camp during the summer months.


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Posted: 03/23/12 01:02pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Scott
It’s very disconcerting to get a letter from Norcold stating “Failure to follow these instructions can result in a fire causing property damage, injury or death” .
Essentially don’t use your motorhome until the repair facility has received the update parts (one at a time).

We have used our Norcold for two years In our current coach with no problem but whenever we leave our dogs in the coach we turn it off. We park it next to our home when not in use and turn it off. It’s a PIA. We are scheduled for the “latest” upgrade. Even after this latest upgrade I willhave zero confidence in Norcold.


It seems to me that the proper repair is to replace the cooling unit but people say that would bankrupt them (if they don’t have enough product liability insurance). Perhaps they should be out of the business.

I would love to have a house type reefer as we don’t boondock very much anymore and I’m seriously considering it.

Sorry for the rant, but they have taken a wonderful pastime and added a new worry – will my coach burn down and perhaps injure someone? I think there would be great peace of mind with stick & bricks reefer and I could deal with the power issues.
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I forgot to say that if you do some research, you will find that the Norcold RV fridge uses "MORE" electrical power than a good energy efficient residential fridge. I thought that was incorrect, until I started looking and it is true.

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