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Jim@HiTek

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There are heavy cables running from the batteries to each side of the solenoid in question (the AUX solenoid). Can't you just follow those wires right to it? They like to put those very close to the batteries so the copper cables are short.


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Jim@HiTek wrote:

There are heavy cables running from the batteries to each side of the solenoid in question (the AUX solenoid). Can't you just follow those wires right to it? They like to put those very close to the batteries so the copper cables are short.


ok 1st is side of box,2nd is diagram on inside of lid,3rd is looking right at box tried to focus on soleniod behind circiut board,4th is what i think are chassis and coach batt relays?





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well, i don't know but i took a wood 1"x1" stick and tapped it a few times and connected coach batts and hit switch to turn those on and didn't get a volt reading this time on the chassis cables and flipped the emergency start switch and i DID hear it kick in and a few seconds i heard it disconnect? so i don't know what fixed it. unhooking all batterys or hitting it.mmmm. my wife says hitting or kicking something won't fix anything?. i'll update again later

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Disconnect neg battery cables.
Use a marker to label all wires to PCB board.
Take pictures of the labels.
Remove wires from the board.
Remove board.
Consider more labels and pics.
Replace aux solenoid - To much work to even consider repairing the solenoid.


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Wow, they did not consider service in the design. Only compactness.

Well, yep, looks like you need to remove the circuit board, unless there is some tricky way of getting in there I can't see. The silver device in the middle of picture number 3 is the AUX solenoid.

If I was relatively secure my testing isolated the problem to the AUX start solenoid, what I'd do after disconnecting shore power and all the batteries, is mark each wire with a stick on numbered tag, then write the tag number right on the circuit board (CB) before I removed it. There may be some wires attached to the back of the CB as well. But you should be able to pull it up and out of the way to access the solenoid.

The AUX start solenoid in your system is a continuous duty solenoid, because it also closes to charge your house batteries via the alternator. That's important to ask for when you go to NAPA for a replacement. It'll cost 2X what a standard starting solenoid will (I paid $26 for one up in Alaska last Sept).

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Wow! I'm glad my solenoid aren't behind my curcuit board! I just got a schematic and I have to trace the wire from my curcuit board to the aux start solenoid, always something to fix on these motor homes.





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yeah, i have an extended warranty but didn;t won't to drive 45 miles and have to leave her there. when i have to take her in for something else i will get them to replace it, thanks again

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One thing many people forget is that the solenoids that connect and disconnect the power take a few amps to stay engaged. If you leave the power engaged these solenoids alone will drain the power.
Unless I am hooked to shore power I always disconnect the power both on coach as well as chassis.


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genesimmons wrote:

yeah, i have an extended warranty but didn;t won't to drive 45 miles and have to leave her there. when i have to take her in for something else i will get them to replace it, thanks again
Unless it's failing while there you should expect to pay for the replacement. Good luck.

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Gene, you solenoid was hung-up. This does happen. If it happens once, it will more than likely happen again. Lack of use can cause this. You have gotten allot of very good advice about the problem, from some very experienced people. No, I don't know them personally, but they are making very good sense. If it were me, I would buy a spare, and carry it, just in case.


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