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Posted: 03/28/12 09:36am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My F-150 came with E rated tires from Ford.
But has anybody really heard of a split wheel before because of tire pressure? Not saying that it can't happen, I just never heard of anything like that before today.


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Posted: 03/28/12 12:06pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Exceeding Rim Recommended Max PSI


BenK wrote:

falconman wrote:

Just curious, has anyone ever seen or heard of a rim failure from too much pressure? What would it look like?


I used to work as a tire monkey working my way through college. Owner
was a great guy and taught me a ton on automotive & general stuff

An old guy came in one day with a leaky wheel.

I could NOT find the leak on the tire, even after dunking it in the
tire dunk tank. Only the tire was underwater

Boss came over after noticing no success by me.

He took one look at the tire and wheel to say the tire isn't leaking
but the wheel was

That old guy had a 'LT' class tire mounted on a 'P' class wheel.

The higher PSI fatigues the wheel rim to crack the rim at the transition
between the wheel and rim bead area.

It is a cantilevered loading on the wheel rim. For those who don't know
what a cantilevered beam load is...think of a tree trunk and one branch
or limb sticking out

That is a cantilevered beam load. Fastened only at one end and forces
or loading on the rest of that beam (branch or limb)

These images shows the rim edge to wheel itself and how it is cantilevered





Can you now see where the tire bead pushes out against the wheel
rim as a cantilevered load/force? They crack right at that junction

The difference between my tree example is that with a wheel, the rim
is 360* whereas the tree is a point. Think of a tree limb that goes
completely around the tree

Boss then took a pair of pliers and snapped that rim edge off easily

Said whoever sold him that tire didn't know what they were doing and
if he (that customer) wanted to, my boss would write a letter stating
that so the customer would have a case against that other dealer

Old guy said out of town and that dealer out of business long ago (no
surprised after seeing or understanding what the heck what they did)





JIMNLIN wrote:

Ben's pics are right on. Every steel trailer wheel I've split from too much pressure, came at the wheels bead seat flange. Generally aluminum wheels that I saw anyway, were crack in the valleys. In all cases these were wheels carrying close to max capacity.



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Posted: 05/02/12 03:11pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here it goes. I have towed several times with the tires up to 50 PSI. It makes a big difference in the way the truck handles. I also have the RAS on the truck and that has made a huge difference in the handling as well. Thanks for all the input and info guys.

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Posted: 03/28/12 10:15pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Interesting, to say the least.
It agrees with the fact that the HD payload package on the F-150 that comes with E-rated tires also comes with special 7-lug "high capacity" aluminum wheels.
I am more and more happy I picked that HD payload package as one of the options.

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