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rvert10 wrote:

Brassica wrote:

TugCE wrote:

We have enough oil in the country if only they were allowed to drill for it without all of the red tape that the EPA and other Government Agencies require.

That is not true.

He is correct, the oil company themselves also slow down refining or export more and leave the US and Canada short. ...

U.S. HAS MASSIVE OIL RESERVES
SHALE REMAINS UNTAPPED AFTER DECADES OF FAILURE

By Christopher J. Petherick

There is an estimated 2 trillion barrels of oil buried beneath parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming. Geologists, petroleum companies and the federal government have known about these massive deposits for nearly a century. The trouble has always been: how do you get at it?

It is believed that the shale deposits in the Green River region of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming are holding the equivalent of approximately 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. Called “oil shale” or “shale oil,” according to scientists and petroleum companies, much of it cannot be recovered with current technology due to the costly processing involved and the depth of the deposits buried beneath the Rocky Mountains.

...don't forget North Dakota
The article by Petherick you cited by Petherick says technology is not ready. Your comment even reinforces that. It's not the "EPA" like Rvert10 claims.

People who think that the US can double oil production and not be dependent on imports of oil have been reading biased editorial columns and believing every word. Be skeptical

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People who think that the US can double oil production and not be dependent on imports of oil have been reading biased editorial columns and believing every word. Be skeptical



The question is at what price, and on what timeline.


Doubling oil production is not out of the question, if the price is right.


But someone here might not like the $10 a gallon price...

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Brassica wrote:

rvert10 wrote:

Brassica wrote:

TugCE wrote:

We have enough oil in the country if only they were allowed to drill for it without all of the red tape that the EPA and other Government Agencies require.

That is not true.

He is correct, the oil company themselves also slow down refining or export more and leave the US and Canada short. ...

U.S. HAS MASSIVE OIL RESERVES
SHALE REMAINS UNTAPPED AFTER DECADES OF FAILURE

By Christopher J. Petherick

There is an estimated 2 trillion barrels of oil buried beneath parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming. Geologists, petroleum companies and the federal government have known about these massive deposits for nearly a century. The trouble has always been: how do you get at it?

It is believed that the shale deposits in the Green River region of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming are holding the equivalent of approximately 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. Called “oil shale” or “shale oil,” according to scientists and petroleum companies, much of it cannot be recovered with current technology due to the costly processing involved and the depth of the deposits buried beneath the Rocky Mountains.

...don't forget North Dakota
The article by Petherick you cited by Petherick says technology is not ready. Your comment even reinforces that. It's not the "EPA" like Rvert10 claims.

People who think that the US can double oil production and not be dependent on imports of oil have been reading biased editorial columns and believing every word. Be skeptical


I don't claim to be an expert, but I read and listen. When it comes to government I'm very skeptical of their trueths. The article I cited is to show That we do have the oil. The gentleman from Alberta is using the technology to get tarsands,oilshale and the black gold I wouldn't want to work under those conditions of Alberta and Prudo bay. I can tell you with certainty we have poor technology on diesel emmissions but its better than it was. Our problems with the oil is the government and tree huggers to get to it. The cost of oil is inflated by Bank speculators. The same banks that the US taxpayer bailed out. I play golf and played a course near Denver This course had Oil and Gas pumps. I would never have noticed them if it hadn't been point out. The enviroment can be protected and restored.


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Anyone who signed onto first generation DPF / SCR technology is going to get mugged.

3rd or 4th generation technology will be much better... on the market around 2025.

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NewsW wrote:

Anyone who signed onto first generation DPF / SCR technology is going to get mugged.

3rd or 4th generation technology will be much better... on the market around 2025.


Why don't you tell us about it Nostradamus?

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I'm Rick James wrote:

NewsW wrote:

Anyone who signed onto first generation DPF / SCR technology is going to get mugged.

3rd or 4th generation technology will be much better... on the market around 2025.


Why don't you tell us about it Nostradamus?


I'm curious too. Where in the H**l do you get your information?

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DPFs will likely be 1/2 of present size by the time the technology stabilizes around 2020.

Can go much smaller if it is successfully moved to the exhaust manifold.

Fuel consumption to heat DPF can be a thing of the past if electric heating is deployed as expected beginning 2018.

There is a possibility to use "shore" power overnight in lieu of self generated power.

Or a hybrid where "shore" power is used normally, but fuel heating used when it is needed.

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NewsW wrote:

DPFs will likely be 1/2 of present size by the time the technology stabilizes around 2020.

Can go much smaller if it is successfully moved to the exhaust manifold.

Fuel consumption to heat DPF can be a thing of the past if electric heating is deployed as expected beginning 2018.

There is a possibility to use "shore" power overnight in lieu of self generated power.

Or a hybrid where "shore" power is used normally, but fuel heating used when it is needed.




Hold on! you didn't answer the questions...show us your reference/citationto back this up. Right now you sound like you're spewing ****

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rvert10 wrote:

NewsW wrote:

DPFs will likely be 1/2 of present size by the time the technology stabilizes around 2020.

Can go much smaller if it is successfully moved to the exhaust manifold.

Fuel consumption to heat DPF can be a thing of the past if electric heating is deployed as expected beginning 2018.

There is a possibility to use "shore" power overnight in lieu of self generated power.

Or a hybrid where "shore" power is used normally, but fuel heating used when it is needed.




Hold on! you didn't answer the questions...show us your reference/citationto back this up. Right now you sound like you're spewing ****

You must be new here.


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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

rvert10 wrote:

NewsW wrote:

DPFs will likely be 1/2 of present size by the time the technology stabilizes around 2020.

Can go much smaller if it is successfully moved to the exhaust manifold.

Fuel consumption to heat DPF can be a thing of the past if electric heating is deployed as expected beginning 2018.

There is a possibility to use "shore" power overnight in lieu of self generated power.

Or a hybrid where "shore" power is used normally, but fuel heating used when it is needed.






Hold on! you didn't answer the questions...show us your reference/citationto back this up. Right now you sound like you're spewing ****

You must be new here.


I just don't say much, but this topic as it wanes back and forth is worth the discussion

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