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DirtyOil

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Emotional, aren't you?

Nah.... thought I would clear up your misconceptions

Did you have a bad day at SAGD?

Had a wonderful day, had some greenpeace/tree huggers/greenies show up in a broken down old Chevy was that leaking and burning more oil then anything on lease. When they started their "bible" thumping I simply pointed their ole Chevy, and asked them if they had any questions?

Had a break through at the cap rock?

Does the word "Tarsand" ring any bells? Oil is trapped in the sand hence "tarsand" the tarsand is mined like open pit minning. Similar to coal, gold and silver open pit mines you'll find all over North America. Cap Rock you speak of is in conventional oil/gas wells.

Or did you lose some more ducks?

Don't own any "ducks". I do wonder how many ducks or any other feathered friends are killed due to strikes on wind turbines, building hits, plane strikes, power lines and duck hunters a year?


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Posted: 04/13/12 03:50pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

DirtyOil wrote:

Emotional, aren't you?

Nah.... thought I would clear up your misconceptions



Well, for a moment, I was wondering if you were drinking from API 20 degree stuff again.

Remember to never drink the stuff directly, only after it is cracked and made into lighter distillates.

The Ethanol is absolutely fabulous... if you can steal it before they mix it in.

It gets real good if you can keep it in an oak cask for 20 years or so.


Should have alerted you to dealing with a huff n puff in situ kinda guy.

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Brassica wrote:

TugCE wrote:

We have enough oil in the country if only they were allowed to drill for it without all of the red tape that the EPA and other Government Agencies require.

That is not true.


He is correct, the oil company themselves also slow down refining or export more and leave the US and Canada short. Canada pays more in taxes then the US

U.S. HAS MASSIVE OIL RESERVES

SHALE REMAINS UNTAPPED AFTER DECADES OF FAILURE



By Christopher J. Petherick

There is an estimated 2 trillion barrels of oil buried beneath parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming. Geologists, petroleum companies and the federal government have known about these massive deposits for nearly a century. The trouble has always been: how do you get at it?

It is believed that the shale deposits in the Green River region of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming are holding the equivalent of approximately 1.5 trillion to 1.8 trillion barrels of oil. Called “oil shale” or “shale oil,” according to scientists and petroleum companies, much of it cannot be recovered with current technology due to the costly processing involved and the depth of the deposits buried beneath the Rocky Mountains.

and don't forget Noth Dakota

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Well, for a moment, I was wondering if you were drinking from API 20 degree stuff again.

Remember to never drink the stuff directly, only after it is cracked and made into lighter distillates.

The Ethanol is absolutely fabulous... if you can steal it before they mix it in.

It gets real good if you can keep it in an oak cask for 20 years or so.


Should have alerted you to dealing with a huff n puff in situ kinda guy.



You know.... not all the info your getting from wiki is current. Heres an open invite to you or any one else who might have some negative thoughts/ideas on the Alberta Tarsands. Come on up (or down NW) I'd be more then happy to show you around, you can as they say "inbed" yourself with a first hand, close up view of the process. I'll show you the before, present and future. If your into wildlife, great! You won't be dissapointed, deer, caribou, beaver, buffalo, black bears, wolves, swans, cranes, pelicans, geese, two legged animals, newfies and yes even ducks! (no rats in Alberta... just some two legged versions) I'll even show ya spots where crude oil bubbles naturally right out of the ground, like it has for thousands of years.

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You know.... not all the info your getting from wiki is current. Heres an open invite to you or any one else who might have some negative thoughts/ideas on the Alberta Tarsands. Come on up (or down NW) I'd be more then happy to show you around, you can as they say "inbed" yourself with a first hand, close up view of the process. I'll show you the before, present and future. If your into wildlife, great! You won't be dissapointed, deer, caribou, beaver, buffalo, black bears, wolves, swans, cranes, pelicans, geese, two legged animals, newfies and yes even ducks! (no rats in Alberta... just some two legged versions) I'll even show ya spots where crude oil bubbles naturally right out of the ground, like it has for thousands of years.



People like me get to go to places with names like Cold Lake, Ft. McMurray, and devise stuff like EOR.

With luck, I will be in print at SPE before the end of the year.

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People like me get to go to places with names like Cold Lake, Ft. McMurray, and devise stuff like EOR.

If you actually worked on enhanced oil recovery, then you'd have an understanding of cap rock and tarsand hydrocarbon recovery, just saying...

With luck, I will be in print at SPE before the end of the year.

Would that be society of plastic engineers or photographic education or the book store or are you one of those goofs of the society of petroleum enigneers? Just asking.. oh and those two legged rats i talked about... they call themsleves "engineers".

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Back in the fifties, the so called engineers or Society of Petroleum Engineers developed a plan to extract oil from the Tarsands... rather simple the one engineer said... "we'll drill a 4 foot in diameter well about 2000 feet down... then call the airforce in and have them donate a 5 mega ton nuclear bomb. then we'll simply lower it down the well and detonate the explosive and "Poof!" we simply gather up all the oil..." Thank you to the guys with some common sense (non-engineer types) They ran those "rats" out of the Province!

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DirtyOil wrote:

People like me get to go to places with names like Cold Lake, Ft. McMurray, and devise stuff like EOR.

If you actually worked on enhanced oil recovery, then you'd have an understanding of cap rock and tarsand hydrocarbon recovery, just saying...



And if you are familiar with current nomenclature, "tarsand" is no longer used.

It is oilsands.

Open pit mining is on its way out (or at least few more new projects) with most of the money and resources going to in-situ.

Huff and Puff is also called Cyclic Steam Injection.


SAGD is doing recovery ratios of around 50% depending on the quality of the reservoir, and it will burst through shale layers just like that.


Mind you, the problem I was recently dealing with is fractured carbonates, very light API 31 degree stuff.

Devised a way to float it up with saline.

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And if you are familiar with current nomenclature, "tarsand" is no longer used.

we still use the term Tarsands, some call it oilsands and then others call it "bituminous sands" Rats... err engineers use the latter.

It is oilsands.

Open pit mining is on its way out (or at least few more new projects) with most of the money and resources going to in-situ.

Huff and Puff is also called Cyclic Steam Injection.

Cyclic steam injection been around for decades... used back in the fifties


SAGD is doing recovery ratios of around 50% depending on the quality of the reservoir, and it will burst through shale layers just like that

SAGD, old school as well used back in the 80's

How about VAPEX, THAI or COGD... I'll save you the look up time:

VAPEX hydrocarbon solvents injected to dilute the Bitumin.
THAI similar to a "fire flood"... you ought to know about fire floods
COGD a combination of steam injection.. to get the juices flowing then as in the THAI method air is injected and then ignited, prob the best as it cuts down ont the "greenhouse gasses" only issue is control... could end up burning the country side down as most of the tarsands/oilsands/bituminous fields are just below the peatmoss.

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How about VAPEX, THAI or COGD... I'll save you the look up time:

VAPEX hydrocarbon solvents injected to dilute the Bitumin.
THAI similar to a "fire flood"... you ought to know about fire floods



Guess what?

I just reviewed every single THAI (in-situ combustion) claim bandied about and in the literature and it is uneconomic.

Be sure you catch that.

It is impossible to control the flame front, and the spread.

Fingering, pathways are not stable and nowhere near what the proponents suggest.

That is what you get talking to the people who tried it.

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