I drive 60 while towing because that's the manufacturer's recommended maximum speed while towing for my vehicle, and 5mph below the speed rating on the trailer's tires.
I'm continually surprised at just how many cars (not just large trucks slowing down on hills, but normal cars) that I pass while driving that speed.
Liriope wrote: I also find it funny for someone or anyone pulling or driving an RV to complain "about other people" wasting fuel."
I think you miss the point. No, I am sure you miss the point. The idea is for all of us to drive more efficiently, regardless of what we are driving and for whatever reason, to conserve a valuable resource.
If you feel RV'ing is a "waste of fuel", then maybe you should find another pastime.
Nope, you are missing the point. Complaining about speeding being a waste of fuel is ludicrous when you are driving an RV.
Your choice to use excessive fuel by using an RV is just as "dumb" as using excessive fuel by speeding. Doesn't matter if you do it economically or not. I could say that I economically 'speed' by riding a motorcycle.
If you don't understand or like people that speed is fine with me.
Accusing someone of excessive use of fuel when they get over 20mpg while you are getting less than 10mpg is just stupid.
Finally a man of reason, where does the OP get to complain about speeding , and using excessive fuel, when if he tries real hard he can get 11 mpg instead of 10 by driving under the speed limit, and being a safety hazard .
valhalla360 wrote: The most reconized and accepted method of setting the speed limit is based on the 85 percentile (the speed that 85% of traffic is traveling at or slower than). Many urban communities ignore the science and set arbitrarily low speed limits in the name of "safety" but the research proves them wrong time after time.
I can confirm that this is true. In CA, cities can set their own speed limits on their municipal streets. However, by CA law, if they want to use radar enforcement, they must comply with the engineering study result of speed on that street. Set it below the study result, and radar cannot be used in court. Our own city recently had to increase the speed limit on many of our streets, even though they really didn't want to, but the police department wanted to keep their radar.
Whenever you see a rubber hose tacked across the street and connected to a little box over on the curb, that is a speed study in progress.
This is correct with some exceptions. The exceptions include special speed zones such as school zones.
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Liriope wrote: I also find it funny for someone or anyone pulling or driving an RV to complain "about other people" wasting fuel."
I think you miss the point. No, I am sure you miss the point. The idea is for all of us to drive more efficiently, regardless of what we are driving and for whatever reason, to conserve a valuable resource.
If you feel RV'ing is a "waste of fuel", then maybe you should find another pastime.
Nope, you are missing the point. Complaining about speeding being a waste of fuel is ludicrous when you are driving an RV.
Your choice to use excessive fuel by using an RV is just as "dumb" as using excessive fuel by speeding. Doesn't matter if you do it economically or not. I could say that I economically 'speed' by riding a motorcycle.
If you don't understand or like people that speed is fine with me.
Accusing someone of excessive use of fuel when they get over 20mpg while you are getting less than 10mpg is just stupid.
Finally a man of reason, where does the OP get to complain about speeding , and using excessive fuel, when if he tries real hard he can get 11 mpg instead of 10 by driving under the speed limit, and being a safety hazard .
It may only be 1 MPG but that is a 10% reduction in consumption. If the consumption of motor fuel was reduced by 10% on a nationwide basis, that would be something indeed.
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mowermech wrote: "If you have a line of vehicles behind you, you are the problem."
You are also violating the law in many areas. Some say 4 vehicles or more trapped behind you, and you must pull over and let them by "where it is safe for you to do so". Some say 5 vehicles or more.
No only is it courteous, it is required BY LAW!
Pity it isn't a law everywhere.
You might be surprised at the number of states which have a variation of that law on the books(Montana has it, does YOUR state?).
As usual, it isn't so much the lack of a law, it is lack of ENFORCEMENT! Either the officers are not aware of the law (they can't know EVERYTHING, y'know) or they just don't choose to be bothered. Besides, if they are trapped in the line of vehicles, how do they get to the front to ticket the rolling road-block without endangering everybody else in the line?
Ashton, Id to West Yellowstone is a great place to get someone towing 40 MPH in a 65 MPH zone with a long line of cars ,and trucks behind them . I have seen it many times. Then of course you get the ones that get impatient ,and try to pass, I have seen some close calls.
Liriope wrote: I also find it funny for someone or anyone pulling or driving an RV to complain "about other people" wasting fuel."
I think you miss the point. No, I am sure you miss the point. The idea is for all of us to drive more efficiently, regardless of what we are driving and for whatever reason, to conserve a valuable resource.
If you feel RV'ing is a "waste of fuel", then maybe you should find another pastime.
Nope, you are missing the point. Complaining about speeding being a waste of fuel is ludicrous when you are driving an RV.
Your choice to use excessive fuel by using an RV is just as "dumb" as using excessive fuel by speeding. Doesn't matter if you do it economically or not. I could say that I economically 'speed' by riding a motorcycle.
If you don't understand or like people that speed is fine with me.
Accusing someone of excessive use of fuel when they get over 20mpg while you are getting less than 10mpg is just stupid.
Finally a man of reason, where does the OP get to complain about speeding , and using excessive fuel, when if he tries real hard he can get 11 mpg instead of 10 by driving under the speed limit, and being a safety hazard .
It may only be 1 MPG but that is a 10% reduction in consumption. If the consumption of motor fuel was reduced by 10% on a nationwide basis, that would be something indeed.
And if you drove a car instead of an RV it would be a 200-300% reduction. Multiply that with all the rv's. That would be something indeed.
So you are basically saying that the more one's vehicle consumes the less they need to conserve. I would maintain the opposite. The difference between 11 MPG and 10 MPG over a 1500 mile trip adds up to over 300 lbs of greenhouse gasses.
Liriope wrote: I also find it funny for someone or anyone pulling or driving an RV to complain "about other people" wasting fuel."
I think you miss the point. No, I am sure you miss the point. The idea is for all of us to drive more efficiently, regardless of what we are driving and for whatever reason, to conserve a valuable resource.
If you feel RV'ing is a "waste of fuel", then maybe you should find another pastime.
Nope, you are missing the point. Complaining about speeding being a waste of fuel is ludicrous when you are driving an RV.
Your choice to use excessive fuel by using an RV is just as "dumb" as using excessive fuel by speeding. Doesn't matter if you do it economically or not. I could say that I economically 'speed' by riding a motorcycle.
If you don't understand or like people that speed is fine with me.
Accusing someone of excessive use of fuel when they get over 20mpg while you are getting less than 10mpg is just stupid.
Finally a man of reason, where does the OP get to complain about speeding , and using excessive fuel, when if he tries real hard he can get 11 mpg instead of 10 by driving under the speed limit, and being a safety hazard .
It may only be 1 MPG but that is a 10% reduction in consumption. If the consumption of motor fuel was reduced by 10% on a nationwide basis, that would be something indeed.
And if you drove a car instead of an RV it would be a 200-300% reduction. Multiply that with all the rv's. That would be something indeed.
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mowermech wrote: "If you have a line of vehicles behind you, you are the problem."
You are also violating the law in many areas. Some say 4 vehicles or more trapped behind you, and you must pull over and let them by "where it is safe for you to do so". Some say 5 vehicles or more.
No only is it courteous, it is required BY LAW!
Pity it isn't a law everywhere.
You might be surprised at the number of states which have a variation of that law on the books(Montana has it, does YOUR state?).
As usual, it isn't so much the lack of a law, it is lack of ENFORCEMENT! Either the officers are not aware of the law (they can't know EVERYTHING, y'know) or they just don't choose to be bothered. Besides, if they are trapped in the line of vehicles, how do they get to the front to ticket the rolling road-block without endangering everybody else in the line?
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