The Mad Norsky wrote:

Experience may be the key here.

You obviously have much experience towing heavy (or even heavier ) loads than a lot of people who post here.

Now it is one thing to know what you, yourself, can handle with your vehicle. It is entirely a different situation to promote such practices with a stranger of unknown experience or ability.

It is therefore common sense to publicly, such as on a forum as this, to promote or urge towing practices which for most people, would stay within manufacturers limits for their respective vehicles. To do otherwise could actually be putting a novice driver into an unsafe situation.

It is not unreasonable to observe that there are a LOT of posters on here, asking questions, who have never actually towed a fifth wheel or trailer of any type before. Good grief, look at the one thread where the poor poster is having problems just hitching up to his fifth wheel. If this poster is such a novice in experience that he cannot easily even hook up to his hitch, how does one think he would do pulling such a load down the highway if he is extremely overloaded??????

My experience is not yours, yours is not mine. Temper observations and advice with the sense that those you are speaking to actually know and have done very little.

It doesn't matter what you have done out on the ranch.

4x4ord wrote:


I didn't cross a scale so can't say for cettain but my guess is a 4000lb pin weight which would not overload the tires. Although I beleive tires are, for good reason, rated with a large safety margin I would not advocate that anyone load a truck or trailer beyond its tire's rating.

4x4ord wrote:

On I another thread i was accused of being arrogant for claiming I need a bigger trailer to find my truck's towing limit. I know allot of people on here think the gvwr numbers are some kind of magical numbers that actually mean something - I used my cell phone to make a little video that I hope gives some indication of how comfortably my F350 SRW handles a 30,000 lb trailer. This new truck is easily towing twice what it is rated for. (towing this trailer is as relaxing as taking the car for a Sunday drive) My 03 diesel didn't handle half this weight as confidently yet both are rated for roughly 15000 lb 5th wheels. My point is that the new series of diesels are much more capable than the old even though the weight ratings haven't really changed all that much. http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k585/4x4ord/2012-03-28155731.jpg

Supreme Oppressor wrote:

I don't think he was claiming that that type of load was safe to tow across the country on the interstate. He claimed his truck had a lot of power and pulled it easily.