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I want an actual link to a news story or court case. Not, somebody saying "it happened to my buddy". Even his story admits his insurance did pay out. 8 year old "story". At least he did not say, "here, hold my beer and watch this!"
And as far as the lawsuit, you can be sued even if you were under weight, if you lost control of the rig.
dc870dir wrote: I have a 2012 F250 with the 6.7 diesel. The truck weighs 8200 pounds with 2 occupants and fuel. I own a 2012 Sandpiper with a dry weight of 9850 pounds which the truck handles with no issues at all. My concern is with the GVWR of the truck which according to Ford is 10,800 pounds, not the 10,000 that is on the door sticker. The truck weighs 10,800 when hooked up to the fifth wheel. I know this is pushing it, but everyone I ask at Ford and of course the RV dealer, says I will have no problems at all with this weight. So, can I really use this truck for this fifth wheel or should I look for some other combination?
Take your =dry= pin wt., divide by =dry= wt., then multiply by the GVW on the placard. This will give you an =estimate= of the actual pin wt. at gross. If I'm looking at the published numbers right (315RE, the only one on Sandpiper's site with a dry wt. of 9,850), my guess is that you'll be marginal on your truck if you're fully loaded.
Lyle
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bpounds wrote: Yes, it is a myth. Folks around here like to quote tests showing that 50% of us are overloaded. If that's true, half the accidents we have would not be covered by our insurance. Just doesn't make sense.
Actually, the RV Safety & Education Foundation (RVSEF) data indicates that 56% of RVs exceed one or more (weight) safety ratings. They are in no position to lie about that data. RVSEF Reference
And all those complaints about bad tires known as the China bomb tires, I'm convinced that 99% of the failures had nothing to do with bad manufacturing and it has everything to do with overloading and or under inflation.
I do not know if it is a myth the insurance wont pay if you are overweight.
I DO KNOW that 'most' insurance companies do not want to pay for anything if they can find a way out.
I DO Know that you can be ticketed / fined / and even towed if found overweight.
Therefore I personally make sure that not only am I safe, but that I am within the specifications for my vehicles. It not only makes ME feel safer, it makes me feel that I am doing all I can to protect those I love, myself, and those around my on the road. It is one of those situations that even if you are overweight, as long as nothing happens you are good, but when something does, you are at risk....
I do not know if it is a myth the insurance wont pay if you are overweight.
I DO KNOW that 'most' insurance companies do not want to pay for anything if they can find a way out.
I DO Know that you can be ticketed / fined / and even towed if found overweight.
Therefore I personally make sure that not only am I safe, but that I am within the specifications for my vehicles. It not only makes ME feel safer, it makes me feel that I am doing all I can to protect those I love, myself, and those around my on the road. It is one of those situations that even if you are overweight, as long as nothing happens you are good, but when something does, you are at risk....
My .02
Please provide a link to the weight laws you are referring to.
GVWR is a vehicle manufacturers warranty issue. Exceeding your tire ratings might get you in trouble if the officer does not like you.
We get all wrapped up about weights. Go to a truck stop and talk to a driver of a hotshot pickup towing a large trailer if you want to better understand what one can legally tow with a pickup truck.
Chris
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DW-gray wrote: And all those complaints about bad tires known as the China bomb tires, I'm convinced that 99% of the failures had nothing to do with bad manufacturing and it has everything to do with overloading and or under inflation.
You were sounding pretty credible until you got here! I've had both ST and LT tires fail that originated from China - and I take your comment a little personal given I run 2,000 pounds under weight and continuously monitor pressure.
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bpounds wrote: Yes, it is a myth. Folks around here like to quote tests showing that 50% of us are overloaded. If that's true, half the accidents we have would not be covered by our insurance. Just doesn't make sense.
Actually, the RV Safety & Education Foundation (RVSEF) data indicates that 56% of RVs exceed one or more (weight) safety ratings. They are in no position to lie about that data. RVSEF Reference
And all those complaints about bad tires known as the China bomb tires, I'm convinced that 99% of the failures had nothing to do with bad manufacturing and it has everything to do with overloading and or under inflation.
I think you missed my point. I was not doubting the statistic of overloading. I was saying that insurance is covering accidents for those 56% that are overloaded, and that it is a myth that you would not be covered.
45Ricochet wrote: Well since most all civil cases are closed for a reason I'll just throw this link out there. Don't shoot the messenger. 99% of the time your insurance will cover it and THEN drop you. Hope your not the 1% who cheeped out on coverage.
Note that even though he was overloaded, and cited, and sued, his insurance still paid $300k of liability, which is likely the limit of coverage that the guy purchased. So even in this worst case scenario, the myth is busted.
2Unruly wrote: If you are over GVWR sticker and something bad happens, really bad, and during the accident investigation they discover that, you will have to take out a second mortgage to pay all of the fines and court costs........
I asked my State Farm agent and he asked the regional adjuster about this "myth" (as I call it) and the adjuster responded with a laugh. Then he said "there is know way we will scoop up the mess and weigh it."
I've read a lots comments about this scare tactic and the claims but no one has yet provided any proof.
Only saw one accident where an inadequate TV was towing a trailer, the driver lost control, the rig turned over killing the owners son and seriously injuring his daughter and he was charged with a felony for not having an adequate TV to control the trailer. Hope he gets to sit in prison a long time thinking about his son and daughter.
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99% of the time your insurance will cover it and THEN drop you. Hope your not the 1% who cheeped out on coverage. 
