Sluggo54 wrote: "Remember when FORD bought back all the OEM Goodyears on their Explorer's because they were blowing out, and causing rollovers? "
That was Firestones, and Ford was at least equally at fault for specifying low tire pressures, on the order of 24 psi. I have had a few blowouts in years past, and not one of them would turn a vehicle over without some steering input help.
Sluggo
"I really didn't say everything I said"
Thanks for clarifying. My only point was; with the sheer number of threads out there on three different RV forums- recounting ST blow-outs, poor design happens... (and there's got to be bean counters justifying them somehow)
Sluggo54 wrote: "Remember when FORD bought back all the OEM Goodyears on their Explorer's because they were blowing out, and causing rollovers? "
That was Firestones, and Ford was at least equally at fault for specifying low tire pressures, on the order of 24 psi. I have had a few blowouts in years past, and not one of them would turn a vehicle over without some steering input help.
Sluggo
"I really didn't say everything I said"
Thanks for clarifying. My only point was; with the sheer number of threads out there on three different RV forums- recounting ST blow-outs, poor design happens... (and there's got to be bean counters justifying them somehow)
We hear 'ya. Now factor in all of the other RV forums plus trailers of all types and their horror stories from their websites and the wise trailer owner can get a better picture.
I see more Carlisle issues on boating websites than the RV websites. Boat trailers like a RV trailer come with axles of all sizes.
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B.O. Plenty wrote: I don't care where they're made..when the spare tire blows out while it's just hanging on the back of the trailer that's where I'd have to draw the line. Maybe they need to retrain them robots to build a better product...Sounds like the cheif inspector robot was laying down on the job..
B.O.
Think about what you just typed. Explain how a spare tire "blows out".
We don't know - that was part of the original question from the OP: "Tire #4 was the spare, which blew out WHILE STILL ATTACHED TO THE REAR of the camper parked at home."
Sluggo
It was my original question and when I say the spare tire "blew out" WHILE IT WAS STILL attached to the REAR of the camper, that's exactly where the tire was located, the spare tire was attached on the back side of the trailer. Couldn't believe it when I saw it.
Goodyear Dalian Tire Company Ltd. engages in the manufacturing of tires. The company was formerly known as Dalian International Nordic Tire Co. Goodyear Dalian Tire Company Ltd. is based in Dalian, China. Goodyear Dalian Tire Company Ltd. operates as a subsidiary of Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.
ALIAN, China—As Goodyear Dalian Tire Co. Ltd. works toward completing a four-year, $140 million expansion, management already is planning for the next capital improvement to the firm’s 15-year-old plant in Dalian.
Production of high-performance tires should hit 17,000 units a day by year-end as the company aims for output of 6 million tires next year, according to a spokesman at the Goodyear subsidiary.
“This is going to be the biggest market in the world one day,” he said of China. “They are going to say, ‘Are you ready to supply this market? Are you ready to be a player?’”
Goodyear’s plant in Dalian employs 840 and operates seven days a week in four shifts a day. Included in the total is capacity for up to 200,000 run-flat tires, a separate investment project disclosed in 2005.
Goodyear Dalian—majority control of which Goodyear acquired in 1994—accounts for about 10 percent of Goodyear’s global tire production, according to Pierre Cohade, president, Asia Pacific Region, Goodyear Tire Management Co. (Shanghai). And this share is going to grow. The company declined to say what its sales are or what its export ratio is.
Goodyear Dalian is part of Goodyear’s Asia-Pacific unit, which accounted for 8 percent, or $640 million, of the Akron-based tire maker’s global sales last year. Goodyear moved its regional Asia-Pacific headquarters in January to Shanghai from Akron. In the region Goodyear also operates tire plants in India, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Thailand.
In addition, Goodyear expects to source $600 million to $800 million in materials from China by 2010.
Domestically, Goodyear is the exclusive supplier of tires for BMW in China and also supplies original equipment (OE) tires to Shanghai Volkswagen Automotive Co., FAW-Volkswagen Automobile Co., Great Wall Motor Co., Brilliance Jinbei Automobile Co., Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co. ventures in China.
Among the OE customers, Mr. Cohade singles out Chery Automobile Co., which uses Goodyear tires for its high-end and export products. “I see Chery making very fast progress. I’m just impressed,” he said.
In the aftermarket, Goodyear sells through a network of 700 independent, Goodyear-branded stores in China, which together Goodyear calls its Goodyear Authorized Service Network. Chinese customers are “first generation drivers” and are “relatively loyal,” Mr. Cohade said. They do not seem to switch brands and tires.
Goodyear also is dedicating an entire marketing strategy for China’s women drivers.
In March, the firm began its year of “Women With Drive,” including a dedicated Web site and brochures. In April, Goodyear initiated a “Female Drivers’ Safety Classroom” where female drivers learn basic safety procedures as well as how to change tires.
The classes are held in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou. Beijing’s Traffic Control Bureau estimates 35 percent of Chinese drivers in 2006 were women.
Looking to capitalize on a dearth of highway rescue services in China, Goodyear launched a “24 hour free road rescue service” in July. Between Aug. 1 and Sept. 30, all customers buying two or more Goodyear tires are rewarded with a 24-hour free rescue card valid for one year.
The service is not just for tires but extends to vehicle mechanical breakdowns and is provided by all Good¬year retailers across China, whatever the weather conditions, the company said.
In the Dalian factory, Goodyear increasingly is using Chinese suppliers developed over the years with Goodyear technology. Those suppliers include Jiangsu Xingda Steel Tyre Cord Co. Ltd. for steel cord; Jiangsu Junma Group for nylon 6 yarn; China Shenma Group for nylon 6,6; and Jiangxi Black Cat Carbon Black Co. for carbon black.
Natural rubber is for the most part still imported from Indonesia, including some from Goodyear’s former rubber plantations in Indonesia, which were sold to Bridgestone Corp. in 2006.
Included in the expansion project are the latest VMI 348 tire-building machines made in Holland. Existing two-stage tire building equipment will be shipped to Goodyear India Ltd., allowing it to build high-performance tires, the spokesman said.
Goodyear Dalian is 25-percent owned by Dalian Bingshan Group Co. Ltd., but Goodyear executives said the minority shareholder is not involved in the management of the company. Goodyear bought into the firm in 1994.
What is all that about? Don’t under estimate the ability of China tire manufacturers. This is a top notch facility with state of the art machinery and operating under the management of people with excellent training and holders of certificates to prove it.
We had Carlisle tires on our TT.They came new on the TT.Three years later with less than 5K on them we had three out of four tires with seperation.The tred looked good and no dry rot on the tires.I always check my tires for proper inflation going and coming from camping,And don't travel over 62=65 mph.We too switched to Maxxis.No problems so far.As far as most tires being made in China?Why do you think that is?Its called Cheap Labor with very little quality control.I do agree that the TT manufactures do need to put a larger size tire on TT,But it comes down to cost.IMO it should be required to have a tire with a 10 percent over max weight of what the TT is rated for.
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Sluggo54 wrote: "Remember when FORD bought back all the OEM Goodyears on their Explorer's because they were blowing out, and causing rollovers? "
That was Firestones, and Ford was at least equally at fault for specifying low tire pressures, on the order of 24 psi. I have had a few blowouts in years past, and not one of them would turn a vehicle over without some steering input help.
Sluggo
Hi, you are right; It was the Firestone tires that failed.
You are wrong; both Goodyear and Firestones were to be inflated at 26 lbs and the Firestones were the only ones that failed.
I worked at Ford dealers, I owned an Explorer Sport with Goodyear tires, and ran them at 26 lbs since it was brand new until I sold it at 93,000 miles and 10 years old. Never had any tire problems with this vehicle.
Bob
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Hi, you are right; It was the Firestone tires that failed. 
