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taviking22

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Posted: 03/30/12 11:46am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

skipnchar wrote:

You should have no damage to the truck. Sit at a boat ramp somewhere and watch as folks launch and retrieve boats and they're in a lot more than a foot deep in many cases.


Its cool to submerge the tailpipe when launching my boat. Makes a neat gurgling sound! BTW...the rear differential also gets a bath!
(Sorry about my hijack of this thread!)


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Why?
If I did this, I'd be doing it every day. We live in western Washington.
But, I'm always willing to learn.


It's already been mentioned (vents/seals/etc). It's more of a concern if the water is over the axles. Everyday rain (like in wash.) is not a concern.

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You should have no damage to the truck. Sit at a boat ramp somewhere and watch as folks launch and retrieve boats and they're in a lot more than a foot deep in many cases.


I'm not sure I understand.. By watching a boat launch that is gonna show how much damage is done to the fluids?

2/3 trucks in the family have had water in the rear diff fluid from launching boats. Now we do very regular fluid changes. Although that wouldn't be obvious by watching us launch the boat.


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The bearings are more likely to need service then the diffs. As you drive, the bearings heat up, cold water makes them contract, as well as the lube in them. The fast contraction of the lube can draw whatever is touching the seal through the seal, in this case water. Most diffs have vent tubes off the top of them to the bottom of the trucks body, if yours don't I would get some vacuum tube and make some.

If you are going to make a habit of playing in the water, your should extend vents off both diffs, the transfercase, and the tranny up to the top of the firewall under the hood.


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Depends on how fast and actual depth of the water

Another issue is if you have been driving for a bit that heated up the fluids
and their cavities...the instant cold can draw in water...some times past seals

Watching folks is not a good indicator either...maybe they have no problems...maybe
they do, but won't know about it till they either have damage or open it up to
change fluids

Normal truck tire is around 30" in dia, which means about 15" or less to the
center line, which means that some part of the diff is touching the water

If running 'fast' enough through that water, it will or may create a wave that
will be deeper than 15"...

OBTW...folks in engineering are paid to be worry warts...or anal about things
(which is really detailed and thorough)...think about it when you get on a plane
or some such that has very low safety margins by design...do you want the guy
who is lax or careless or NOT detailed designing whatever is holding that plane
up in the air?


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JN_B wrote:

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Why?
If I did this, I'd be doing it every day. We live in western Washington.
But, I'm always willing to learn.


It's already been mentioned (vents/seals/etc). It's more of a concern if the water is over the axles. Everyday rain (like in wash.) is not a concern.

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You should have no damage to the truck. Sit at a boat ramp somewhere and watch as folks launch and retrieve boats and they're in a lot more than a foot deep in many cases.


I'm not sure I understand.. By watching a boat launch that is gonna show how much damage is done to the fluids?

2/3 trucks in the family have had water in the rear diff fluid from launching boats. Now we do very regular fluid changes. Although that wouldn't be obvious by watching us launch the boat.


Then you should be thinking about extending the axle tube vents higher. Then you wouldn't have to go thru the fluid change...over & over.

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It's on the list, but that's a very low priority. With the miles we put on, fresh fluid is not a bad thing.

And we're only talking 2-3 times a year.

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As an avid boater, and off road enthusiast I learned long ago that bearing buddies are your friend on the trailer, and snorkles on the diff, transfer case, and transmission will save you a lot of trouble. The last three 4X4 vehicles I've purchased came from the factory with snorkled. Not sure if it was part of the skid plate/protection package or if they just do it.

How much water you may have gotten into the things varies greatly. If you had been running hard and heated up the diffs, transmission etc then got in the water, the cooling effect tends to make it suck water in more than if things hadn't been heated up prior to getting into the water. How much if any damage the water may cause is kind of unknown. I've drained differentials that appeared to be half water before, and as far as I could determine, they didn't have any excessive wear, just a lot of sludge type goo to clean out.

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Billy,

Most have them, a very small hose, usually 1/4" OD or a bit bigger. Normally not that long either, like 2-3". Reality is, could be as good as a hole in the diff from where they are at. For most of us, not a big deal driving thru puddles etc. If you cross rivers/streams etc that are 100+ yds a lot......now time to do something. A reasonably quick in and out.....should not be an issue.

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TomG2 wrote:

Due to flash flooding last night, I was forced to drive down streets and roads with over one foot of water on them. I wonder if there is any risk of damage to a 2 wd Silverado pickup and what should be checked? I got home with nothing more than delays and everything is operating normally.


I personally wouldn't worry. I had a similar experience in my Mother's 2000 Mercury Mountaineer when it had <2,000 miles on it. 12 years and 140,000 miles later, it's just fine, and the fluids weren't changed afterwards.


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Where are these snorkels and vents on the differentials? I'm not very familiar with HD pickups, but I've yet to see this feature on my half tons.



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