I thought about a Tundra before I got my F150, but the Tundra didn't have the payload capacity that the F150's offer. I have 1857lb for my F150 Maxtoww. Couldn't get much over 1645lbs on the Toyota build your own site. Would've liked the dbl cab long (8') bed.
gsxr1300 wrote: "We are actively involved in the SAE Trailer Tow Committee that is developing the J-2807 standards," Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari said. "Final revisions to the standard are in progress with a ballot vote planned for this quarter. Tihe standard will be implemented by all OEMS starting in 2013. Ford's current plan is to follow in that direction at that time."
Whats the ballot vote for?
I think that is referring to the members of the panel (SAE members and Manufacturer reps) voting on exactly what the standards are. I believe they are set now, that article quoted may be dated info.
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OK folks, lets give it a rest. People drive what they drive. They are trucks, thats all. Do we all celebrate our common denominator and love for camping, shake each other's hands at campgrounds, give the index-finger wave over the steering wheel when we pass each other with our rigs......and then berate each other under our own breaths because of the truck they bought?!
Don't get me wrong, I've thought to myself before, "What were they thinking?" when I see a house color or design that doesn't agree with me. But if you become irritated to the point to where it makes you angry to see someone dare drive a Ford, Toyota, Dodge, or GM product....thats not only a waste of your precious time on this planet, but reflects upon your general attitude in thinking you're right about everything, in which this post is probably irritating you anyway.
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harper223 wrote: OK folks, lets give it a rest. People drive what they drive. They are trucks, thats all. Do we all celebrate our common denominator and love for camping, shake each other's hands at campgrounds, give the index-finger wave over the steering wheel when we pass each other with our rigs......and then berate each other under our own breaths because of the truck they bought?!
Don't get me wrong, I've thought to myself before, "What were they thinking?" when I see a house color or design that doesn't agree with me. But if you become irritated to the point to where it makes you angry to see someone dare drive a Ford, Toyota, Dodge, or GM product....thats not only a waste of your precious time on this planet, but reflects upon your general attitude in thinking you're right about everything, in which this post is probably irritating you anyway.
Agreed and well said. I thought my post a few pages ago would have helped put the egos and "my truck is better then your truck" stuff to the background but it appears not. My apologies to the OP as what started out as a good thread was diminished by the brand bashing. I hope that you did get some valuable information that was helpful in your decision making.
Lol they are both vunderhalfs and they both do exactly what vunderhalfs are supposed to do. Handle the average duty use for most consumers. Both are great trucks.
No harm done, I have been highly entertained.
Tundra is due for a refresh so I am sure that this conversation will continue after the refresh.
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I owned a 2005 F350 King Ranch diesel before I bought my Tundra. I will never own another Ford with any kind of turbo period. The Ford left me stranded three times with thousands in repair bills.
This is my third Toyota truck and as typical ...zero issues. I vote for Toyota!
I have put more than 500,000 miles including many off-road miles on Toyota trucks without a single breakdown. Even after 10 years of hard use the gear box would be sound and no play in the steering wheel and every instrument and dash controls still working. The last Toyota 4WD truck I owned I pulled the shocks at 65,000 miles thinking that they were overdue for replacement. I was wrong as they had more resistance than my Chevy Blazer shocks did after 16,000 miles.
I have never had that experience with Ford or Chevy trucks. Sometimes it was expensive repairs with front end bushings and tie rods and blown manifold gaskets and frequent water pump replacement and other times it was nuisance items like the DVD player would stop working intermittently or the clock or the gas gauge or there would be a short and the battery would drain to zero and I would have to remove a battery cable if the truck sat for more than a few days.
My current truck is a 2500HD diesel but if there was a similar offering from Toyota I would not have hesitated to buy it instead. I bought a new truck to get the 100,000 mile 5 year warranty as I do not trust GM, Ford, or Dodge/Cummins when it comes to the reliability of their diesel engines.
Toyota trucks when they do have a problem it is handled very different by the factory. When my brother's Toyota truck engine blew a head gasket at 90,000 miles the dealer told him it was considered to be a factory defect and they rebuilt the engine and gave him a 30,000 mile warranty. When the manifold gasket on my Chevy Tahoe blew at 38,000 miles I had to pay the entire bill even though there were many reports of such gasket failures with the GM engines.
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