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crash1068

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Posted: 04/02/12 08:48pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Any thoughts on the value of an 05 mountain aire vs 08 TS envoy/insignia at a $30k price difference. Is 3yrs worth the $30k?


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Both are very well made coaches. I would probably lean towards the Travel Supreme, but they are orphan coaches. My understanding is that Jayco bought all the equipment from Travel Supreme. So maybe they are not orphans after all.


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Posted: 04/03/12 07:33am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Entegra Coach (Jayco) bought the tooling (not the name TS) when TS went under. I have talked to the Entegra people at rv shows to see if they would work on my coach. I was told that they would.

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What exactly are you claiming this means? Chassis components are used everywhere, are widely available and service-able. House components are common, widely available and service-able. If you damage a body part, salvage yards have them and fiberglass work is not all that difficult for a good shop. Not sure what the "orphan" issue is all about.......

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but they are orphan coaches. My understanding is that



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Would the 30k price difference sway anyone to look at a 2005 vs the 2008 TS?

It appears that we can get one of the Newmars (without aquahot) and a few other options for about $128k 2006.

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paulcardoza wrote:

What exactly are you claiming this means? Chassis components are used everywhere, are widely available and service-able. House components are common, widely available and service-able. If you damage a body part, salvage yards have them and fiberglass work is not all that difficult for a good shop. Not sure what the "orphan" issue is all about.......

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but they are orphan coaches. My understanding is that


Very simple: An orphan coach means that if you get into an accident and lets say a end cap has to be replaced completely, you might have problems finding the end cap to replace the damaged cap. All coaches don't look alike, they all look different. About the only thing that is the same basicly on all coaches is the engine and transmission, but other then that there is a wide variety of components that are specially designed for different coaches.
The frames will vary from company to company. For example: The most common under frames are manufactured by Freightliner and Spartan, but then you have companies that make their own like Monaco manufactures what they call the RoadMaster frame, then there was Alpine which had their own called the Peak, and American coaches with the Liberty, Country coach had there own which was a semi Monocoque frame.

So like I said if you get into an accident and you need some major components to put the coach back together, it might be hard to find the parts.

And it is not like if you find wrecking yards full of coaches to get used parts. It is not like automobile wrecking yards.

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