Turtle n Peeps
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recycler wrote:i thought the newer trucks were required to be able run b-20..i only wish i could get b-20 around were i live, but the m**** chain station said the company deemed it not profitable enough  my 1 gen loves the stuff milage was 3 to 4 mpg better than what passes for diesel now
Please explain how a fuel with less BTU's can get 3 to 4 mpg better and #2. 
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:recycler wrote:i thought the newer trucks were required to be able run b-20..i only wish i could get b-20 around were i live, but the m**** chain station said the company deemed it not profitable enough my 1 gen loves the stuff milage was 3 to 4 mpg better than what passes for diesel now
Please explain how a fuel with less BTU's can get 3 to 4 mpg better and #2.
all that is available in my area is ultra low suflur fuel which has no heat and kills the injection pumps on our tractors and my truck which are designed to run on heavy oil
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Yeah but the truck is more or less designed to run on ULSD. Do you track the mileage on your tractors?
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agesilaus wrote:Yeah but the truck is more or less designed to run on ULSD. Do you track the mileage on your tractors?
my truck is first gen cummins so it was designed to run on #1 or #2 fuel oil the ve pumps hate low sulfur fuels yes we do milage on tractors we go by gallons used per acres worked so there is some variance in the figures (tire slippage, soil conditions and so on)
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recycler wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:recycler wrote:i thought the newer trucks were required to be able run b-20..i only wish i could get b-20 around were i live, but the m**** chain station said the company deemed it not profitable enough my 1 gen loves the stuff milage was 3 to 4 mpg better than what passes for diesel now
Please explain how a fuel with less BTU's can get 3 to 4 mpg better and #2.
all that is available in my area is ultra low suflur fuel which has no heat and kills the injection pumps on our tractors and my truck which are designed to run on heavy oil
What are you talking about? "Ultra low suflur fuel has no heat?"
Look at this chart and then tell me which has more heat. 
#2 has about 10,000 more BTU's / gallon than Bio.
Again how exactly do you break the laws of physics?
As far as a pump killer. We have had ULSD in CA longer than anybody. 7 years now and I have not killed the pump in either my 2006 JD or my 1964 Case. Both run just fine.
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I heard the government proposing to take the lead out of gasoline. It will ruin a car in a year.
cars can't run on unleaded gas and make it; just can't happen.
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:recycler wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:recycler wrote:i thought the newer trucks were required to be able run b-20..i only wish i could get b-20 around were i live, but the m**** chain station said the company deemed it not profitable enough my 1 gen loves the stuff milage was 3 to 4 mpg better than what passes for diesel now
Please explain how a fuel with less BTU's can get 3 to 4 mpg better and #2.
all that is available in my area is ultra low suflur fuel which has no heat and kills the injection pumps on our tractors and my truck which are designed to run on heavy oil
What are you talking about? "Ultra low suflur fuel has no heat?"
Look at this chart and then tell me which has more heat.
#2 has about 10,000 more BTU's / gallon than Bio.
Again how exactly do you break the laws of physics?
As far as a pump killer. We have had ULSD in CA longer than anybody. 7 years now and I have not killed the pump in either my 2006 JD or my 1964 Case. Both run just fine.
if i find somewhere that sells bio within a reasonable range may have to recheck milage as for pump failure it may just be most of my family's equipment is houred out....
again i would prefer to run it
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Biodiesel and its widespread misuse and poor quality is the best reason to not own a diesel powered anything unless you really need it for the foreseeable future.
Based on what is now known about biodiesel, it is being crammed down the throat of users because it is a "renewable" and not because it is inherently better.
There are sufficient issues uncovered and known now, from its dependence on quality control during both manufacture, handling, storage and conditions at the final consumer's equipment to firmly recommend that biodiesel use should be minimized or avoided for a modern EPA 2003 onwards diesel.
Give the fuel 10 years to shake out, and for the infrastructure to properly manufacture and handle it to come into place, before risking a $50,000 engine / truck on this stuff.
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The price at my supplier on March 29th was $4.3256 / gal for diesel and $3.82 for B99.
The Washington State ferry system has tested and approved B20 for use on their ships.
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Are you driving a ship? Do you know that Minnesota switched their school buses to B99 and that winter when the temps dropped the buses were un-drivable since the B99 congealed in the tanks.
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