Ric Flair
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gmcsmoke wrote:eye8Ubutler wrote: No diesel for me....to many horror stories on this forum!
What; 2? If you bought products based off the "horror" stories from rv.net you'd never own a diesel, all powerstroke 6.0L are problems, Lippert frames are death traps and Thor industries churn out******quality trailers.
There are more chicken littles in this place then the whole interwebs combined.
So true. Sometimes it's a surprise to hear folks actually hook up and go camping.
Rudolph Diesel invented the Diesel engine back in the late 1800's. I'd say the kinks are pretty much worked out by now.
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dreeder
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Ric Flair wrote:Rudolph Diesel invented the Diesel engine back in the late 1800's. I'd say the kinks are pretty much worked out by now.
I agree to a point but I don't think old Rudolph or many other's anticipated the EPA galloping in and having Diesel's breath in their own soot.
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Bill1374
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I've had several Dodges over the years but only the last 3 will be of interest to you. Start with a 2000 club cab dually 2wd 5 speed. Nicely optioned truck, good ride, very little repairs averaged 21 highway empty, 14 around town and a bit over 12 towing 12.5 k trailer. Moved to a 2007 quad cab shortbox 6.7 4x4 auto. Good truck, 6 speed auto with vvt exxhaust brake is outstanding, averaged 18 highway, 12 around town and 10 towing. At 70k miles needed front end rebuild, ball joints bad, 80k replaced front hub with bad bearing. Requires new hub as bearing itself is not replaceable. We are upgrading the fifth so just traded to a 2006 quad cab dually 2wd ( only 48k on it, not even broken in). Highway is about 20mpg but not enough miles to rate city yet and haven't towed yet. Miss the 6 speed and exhaust brake allready but the 06s will let you run an exhaust brake so one will get installed.
So thats my story and I'm stickin to it.
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Ric Flair
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dreeder wrote:Ric Flair wrote:Rudolph Diesel invented the Diesel engine back in the late 1800's. I'd say the kinks are pretty much worked out by now.
I agree to a point but I don't think old Rudolph or many other's anticipated the EPA galloping in and having Diesel's breath in their own soot.
The EPAs infuence can be felt across all engine platforms, not just the diesel.
But I get your point.
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy
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Also I don't think Rudolph Diesel was running 23,000+ PSI injection pumps was he? When did the first turbo get put on a diesel, sure wasn't in the 1800's.
With change comes problems that need to be worked out. Unfortunately in their (Ford/GM) rush to win the HP/TQ wars the owners of these trucks running the CP4 pumps are beta testers.
The difference is GM is standing beside their customers and in true Ford style, Ford has decided to throw their customer under the bus.
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I believe Rudolph's design is proven and sound. It is all the other******they started bolting to it that causes the issues.
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If ALL you care about is MPG and you want a new 2012 diesel truck, I think its a close tie between Ford and GM (for an unloaded truck).
Drive all 3 brands, turn on the MPG indicator, and see what you get. That is what I did when I bought a new diesel last year. Further, you will see a mpg difference between duallys, longbeds, shortbeds, big tires, etc.
For towing a heavy trailer, MPG may not be all that different between brands, but I am not sure of this.
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We conducted a bit of a Mpg test while using a 2011 Ford against a 2004 Dodge and a 2010 GMC. Each truck had a similar size RV hooked to it. The Dodge was pulling a 12000 lb RV the GM a 13,000 lb and the Ford about 15,000 lbs. We traveled about 400 km one truck behind the other and hand calculated the mileage at the end of the 400 km. The GM got 10.1 mpg and both the Ford and Dodge got exactly 11 mpg. (Ford was the only one using DEF) Empty the Ford and GM get very similar mpg (highway ranges from 17 to 20). The Dodge does considerably better ranging between 19 - 24 mpg. The highway MPG of our 2003 Duramax is usually around 20 mpg and towing a 13,000 lb RV gets about 11 mpg - it has a Quadzilla tuner that I blame for taking out the transmission.
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Those are some great examples thanks. Truthfully I am more interested in unloaded daily driver numbers than loaded. I know that towing is going to vary from one trip to the next and is going to be reduced in comparison. I have accepted that. The thing is that I have heard some do great unloaded and I have read that some have major issues when used as a driver an not a worker.
Seems so far that if I get an older one that has had the issues already corrected (injectors or emissions) I may be better off than buying a new one.
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Ric Flair
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Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:.. When did the first turbo get put on a diesel, sure wasn't in the 1800's...
Don
The first turbocharged/intercooled diesel was introduced in1905.
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