Ran into the same numbers game with my old F250 and my current 2500HD. I liked the Arctic Fox but man they are heavy. Ended up settling on a Wolfcreek 850 (Little brother of Northwood lineup)
2008 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD 6.0, 3.73, Firestone Air Bags, CCSB LTZ
ChrisO83 wrote: Hello All,
I am considering a TC for my '06 F250 6.0L diesel, short bed, crew cab truck.
My GVWR is 10,000 lbs
My payload is 2700 lbs
My Rear axel GVWR IS 6100 lbs
My listed manufacturers curb Wt is 6395 but I don't know for sure.
I don't have tire info as it is in the shop right now getting serviced (can get that later).
I am interested in getting a Arctic Fox 811 TC.
They weigh in at 2873 lbs Dry. ...
Maybe I am just missing it, but I do not see where COG is being considered. Is the Arctic Fox 811 designed for a short bed truck?
Thanks everyone for you input, it is all very helpful.
In my mind I figured the AF would be too heavy for my ratings but after viewing other posts I was seeing that it is common for many TC to go over the limits. So I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I was also trying to figure out why the mfg would be building a TC for a 3/4 ton that would be too heavy for it.
I see also that beefing up the suspension and tires are important and I will investigate that further.
But I think for my first TC I will look for something lighter for peace of mind.
CO
However, tire ratings (and consequently gross rear axle weight rating, GRAWR) are pretty religiously followed. Why? Because the tires are the only component with an actual discrete weight rating on them.
Most other suspension and drivetrain parts on the truck can fail, and you can still safely pull to the side of the road, or even limp to your destination. When a tire blows, it's usually a short, wild ride, that usually involves a call to your insurance agent.
You won't see the GRAWR or tire ratings CONSCIOUSLY exceeded in this forum very often, if ever. Sometimes you need to do it to get the job done, but anyone that knows better won't do it unless they have no other choice.
2002 Chevy 3500 DRW 8.1L/Allison
2000 Palomino B1500
...and the reason why I need a DRW to haul a Palomino:
2004 United 7x14 tandem axle enclosed toy trailer
2011 PJ 8x20 7-ton deckover equipment trailer
Reddog1 wrote: ChrisO83, what about the COG issue? See my post above.
Wayne
Wayne,
According to the dealers website the AF 811 is set up for a short bed truck but COG is something I have not considered, so your concern seems very valid.
I think I will be leaning to a lighter weight TC like the Wolf Creek 850 which weighs in at 2008 lbs dry.
But it's COG maybe behind the rear axel due to its 104" floor length. I am unable to find the specs on the COG.
Take a look at the Adventurer too. I think they seem very nice (as good as AF) and reasonably priced. I say seem, because we've had ours a very short time. So far, we love it.
They have a couple of very nice models in your wt range.
2011 Adventurer 910FBS,Torklift tie downs,Fastguns & Wobbl-stopprs
2012 Dodge 3500 DRW 6.7L CTD, 4x4, LB,CC,6 speed auto,3.73 axle, General 17" on/off road
2008 Lund 1825 Explorer Sport,115 Merc,9.9 kicker,Torklift Super Hitch,42" Supertruss
USAF ret E-9&E-7
Personally, I would be more concerned with the COG behind the axle, than being over the GVWR. I have had both situations, and see no fix, upgrade, or work around on the COG. The COG behind the axle, is a potential major steering and braking problem. Agree or not on being over the GVWR, you have fixes, upgrades, or work arounds. I have no problem exceeding my GVWR. I respect the decision of others not to exceed the GVWR. Each of us must make our own decision on our comfort level. Hopefully we will make the right decision.
The "weight police" will go nuts over my rig, but I've been very pleased with the overall handling and performance. We're beginning our fifth year with it. And of course, the PU is a Chevy.
Cap'n Bob
1996 Chevy K1500 4X4 Short Box, 5.7L Vortec, E rated tires, Lance Model 820 with Cabover Struts, Firestone Ride-Rite Air Bags, KYB MonoMax Shocks, Torklift Stable Loads, Happijac Truck Camper Tiedowns and Turnbuckles, Honda Eu2000i Inverter/Generator.
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