therink
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I am in the process of upgrading to EZ Flex Suspension on my fiver. My neighbor recommended that I use Never Seize on the wheel studs when putting the wheels back on. I have aluminum wheels and torque wrench and will torque the lugs to spec but not sure if I should use the never seize or not. I have heard differing opinions, but want to do the right thing.
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LarryJM
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therink wrote:I am in the process of upgrading to EZ Flex Suspension on my fiver. My neighbor recommended that I use Never Seize on the wheel studs when putting the wheels back on. I have aluminum wheels and torque wrench and will torque the lugs to spec but not sure if I should use the never seize or not. I have heard differing opinions, but want to do the right thing.
Thanks.
Those that I consider the real experts such as a person that has designed wheels and hub systems for over 35 years for car companies and folks whose job are brake testing certification for OEM vehicle manufacturers both say to use nothing on the actual studs. A little oil on the wheel to hub pilot surfaces is O.K. but use nothing on the studs themselves.
Wheel torque values are based on just clean metal to metal conditions and introducing anything can drastically effect the true holding power of that critical connection.
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Jim Cindy
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No lubricants anywhere a torque value is used. Never Seize acts as a lubricant.
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Feel free to use Never-seize on lugs if your goal is to stretch and break the lugs when you overtorque them. Otherwise no lube should ever be used.
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There are 'wet" torque and "dry" torque values, where "wet" is a lubricated thread and dry is a clean non-lubricated thread. A K-Factor is assigned to the lubricant that adjusts (lowers) the torque requirement by a percentage. This prevents over-tightening which results in metal fatigue and stripped threads.
I have used blue Loctite on lug nuts, loweing the torque setting by 30%. This provides a seconday locking mechanisim and also prevents moisture corrosion and lowers risk of galvanic corrosion.
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wouldn't use never seize on wheel studs or the seat on the wheel i would be sure to check the wheels often
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NEVER use ANY lube on any part of wheel mounting surface. especially not between the wheel and hub. the wheel requires the surface friction. keep things clean and you wont have any problems.
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retired-tech wrote:NEVER use ANY lube on any part of wheel mounting surface. especially not between the wheel and hub. the wheel requires the surface friction. keep things clean and you wont have any problems.
I completely understand no lube on the wheel studs, but can you explain the reason for no lube between the wheel and hub?
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I'll always use some kind of lube on all wheel lugs, and always have,.......for 50 yrs. I don't use a torque reading. I use common sense of feel.
Dry metal to metal contact tends to "gall". When it galling, a torque reading doesn't mean anything. And when a lug won't come loose and breaks, its because it galled !
But believe whatever,....its your lugs !
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After having studs break due to siezed lug nut threads and wheels frozen to the hub I always use never sieze.
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