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Posted: 04/06/12 09:39pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

brobox wrote:

Just my 2 cents. A PC laptop...$500. a Mac laptop..$1,500. I get an un-repairable viruses on my PC it's a throw-a-way, still two to go before I equal a Mac. I normally update before the PC it's ever toast anyway. Savings = $1,000.

Install Linux on that (Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Mint...) you can extend that saving even more. Linux is getting easier every day.

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brobox wrote:

Just my 2 cents. A PC laptop...$500. a Mac laptop..$1,500. I get an un-repairable viruses on my PC it's a throw-a-way, still two to go before I equal a Mac. I normally update before the PC it's ever toast anyway. Savings = $1,000.


Astounding! Are you anticipating or have you experienced an unrepairable virus on a cheap PC?

I've had Macs since 1987 and I've never had a machine be "unrepairable" for any reason. Every machine I've ever retired was donated to a school or other organization in fully operating condition. In fact, in all those years, I've never lost a byte of data due to hardware failure or unrecoverable software issue. To be more succinct, I've never had a hardware failure of any kind with any Mac since 1987.

I've also had several PC's (for professional purposes..to remotely administer Windows networks only) and have administered enterprise networks with thousands of machines. I've never, not once, seen any machine that had to be thrown away due to an unrepairable...gasp... "terminal" virus. It would take a pretty lazy tech to declare a PC as unrepairable because he didn't want to take the time, or didn't have the skills, to remove a persistent virus.

Your price comparison doesn't work either. The MacBook Air, which has become Apples best selling laptop, starts at $999 and it's lighter, more innovative, more powerful, and certainly has a higher build quality than any low end "$500 PC laptop". The MacBook Pro starts at $1199 as does the iMac.

If Mac users had jumped on forums, message boards, or other social networking media to "thumb our noses" every time a new PC vulnerability, virus, or other malware was discovered (which is daily), the internet would have died from network congestion years ago.

I appreciate when Mac users feel the need to post a message to inform other Mac users of a possible issues. I don't appreciate it when PC users feel the need to interject themselves into such conversations just for the purpose of ridicule. What's their point or purpose?

As my public service to other Mac users I will mention that Macs have never been "immune" to various kinds of malware and that there has almost always been anti-virus software available starting with John Norstadt's "Disinfectant" in 1988 (Classic Mac OS). I've had MANY Macs and I have always, and will always, run an anti-virus application.


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Whats happened is:
-Apple has been hanging the "no virus's" nonsense out there for years tempting the bad guys, someone finally bit.

-PC's have been so vulnerable for so long and rightfully paranoid users have clammered for virus protection to the point that there are very few unprotected PC's, so Mac's are lookin' pretty good, especially with their popularity these days.

Sometimes you just gotta shutup and stay low...


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Posted: 04/07/12 12:53pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hey! I just said it was my opinion. You Mac users are a tough bunch. I sure didn't want to melt your Good Humor Bars.


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brobox wrote:

You Mac users are a tough bunch. I sure didn't want to melt your Good Humor Bars.
Not your fault... it it is a side effect of the kool-aid.

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Thanks for the heads up! My MacBook 2.1 checked out clean. No anti-virus program on mine. I think I'll defrag it for good measure... ah, nevermind. We don't have to do that either.


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Clean laptops, will check the Mac Mini and the G4 tomorrow.


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Actually, I have the best of both worlds. I have a big screen desktop Mac, Intel driven. Latest OS for Mac and the same Intel driven computer with Windows 7 installed. I can run both as the mood strikes. I still have a lot of perfectly good PC programs that I can still use with Win7.


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I haven't gotten the software update alert yet and when I checked, there was no Java update available. I wonder if there is a different Java in 10.8 Mountain Lion. That's what I am running. Maybe the security hole is in older OS's.


Did the checks on all 4 Macs though and i'm clean but people also have to remember, you have to visit a not so good web site for it to bother you. Looking at Bing or Rv.net isn't going to do it.





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NorthernLimits wrote:

I haven't gotten the software update alert yet and when I checked, there was no Java update available. I wonder if there is a different Java in 10.8 Mountain Lion. That's what I am running. Maybe the security hole is in older OS's.


Did the checks on all 4 Macs though and i'm clean but people also have to remember, you have to visit a not so good web site for it to bother you. Looking at Bing or Rv.net isn't going to do it.


Are you an Apple Developer? The only ones I know who have Mountain Lion (beta) are Apple Developers. It is my understanding that If an Apple Developer gave you a copy and Apple found out, they would not be pleased with the action Apple would take.

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