Tireman9
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Looking for FACTS on Mission brand tires.
Am doing research for a write-up on Mission brand tires. I believe the design of interest is "Radial ST". When I do a search I find a lot of 2nd hand info such as "A friend had a failure" or "I heard about Mission tire failing" or “I read about these China tires failing"/
What i do not find very often is a clear statement from a user who personal had a failure. The few times there is statement from an owner there is no mention of the tire size or the actual loads on the tires or even how many tires they had and age of the tires. I also do not recall ever finding the DOT provided.
With all the repeated stories on this brand I would have thought it would be easy to get the facts but since there is only a single complaint filed with NHTSA and in that complaint there is no DOT info or tire size and the design is an "FT" and the person filing the complaint said the tires were made by General Tire Co. so that single complaint is very suspect and of little help in trying to look at facts.
If you owned Mission brand tires and had good luck or bad please PM me with whatever data you can. I really do not want to try and write an article based on rumor and hear say information.
Thanks for your support.
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richfaa
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We did have Mission tires OEM on our 06 Montana 3400. We ran heavy but within spec,s and 62/65 MPH. We ran them over 10K miles with not a problem but did change them out because due to our travel we wanted a better tire.
Those Missions ran on a friends boat trailer for another 3 years without a failure.
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downtheroad
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Our Mission Tires on a TT. 10K GVWR.
ST 225/75 R 15 LR D
4+ years old - no failures/no flats/no problems.
Switched them for Maxxis partly because of age, partly because of horror stories and reputation.
Went with Maxxis but LR E for the reserve capacity.
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LostinAZ
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Our OEM Mission Tires on a Montana failed at approximately 10,000 miles with tread separation. 2 failed and replaced the rest. The axle rating on our Montana 5th wheel is 6,000 lbs. The tires were rated at ~ 15% over that at 3520 lbs but still failed. I think that shoots a hole in the theory that the primary reason ST tires fail is because they are loaded too close to their capacity. We did not load the 5th wheel even up to the 6000lb axle capacity. IMHO they were just plain defective tires. Here is the sidewall info off of the original Mission Tires:
5 Mission Tires removed in November 2008 DOT #
DOT 4YB3 CQIC 0306
ST235/80 R16
DOT 4YB3 TC108 036484031
MH0402-07
5 Plies 2 Polyester + 2 Steel + 1 Nylon
Sidewall 2 ply polyester
Max load 3520 lbs at 80 lbs
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kedanie
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I had Missions on a 2007 Everest 5th wheel. Came from the factory with 6,000# axles and ST235-80-16 Missions rated for 3420#. We got about 6,000 miles and 2 years of use when all 4 developed tread separations on one trip. Tires were always aired to 80psi, never run over 65mph and the rig scaled at 9500# on the axles.
Replaced with a popular LT commercial grade tire and never had another problem in over 20,000 miles including a trip to Alaska up the Alaska highway.
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Our Mission tires were factory on this rig. One failed on our first trip 150 miles in. We were in Ca towing at 55 on hwy 395 near lone pine, outside temps were 95f. Ended up replacing all 4 after inspection due to cracking and bulging. We now have bfg commercial ta; 12k miles in the last 1.5 years with zero issues after going through 3 different sets of st tires.
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Mile High
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It seemed at least half of the Montana Owners Club folks had Mission Tires fail. The were warranted through a broker (Tireco) that replaced them via shipping of free-star or some other equivalent junk tire, and they would pick up the failed Mission tires. Mission tires are no longer made as of 2008 I believe. My Mission tires were warranted through the Dealer before the warranty was up, and they gave my a $60 a tire credit because the Mission was no longer available. I took the money and ran.
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RandACampin
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Tireman9 wrote:Looking for FACTS on Mission brand tires.
Am doing research for a write-up on Mission brand tires. I believe the design of interest is "Radial ST". When I do a search I find a lot of 2nd hand info such as "A friend had a failure" or "I heard about Mission tire failing" or “I read about these China tires failing"/
What i do not find very often is a clear statement from a user who personal had a failure. The few times there is statement from an owner there is no mention of the tire size or the actual loads on the tires or even how many tires they had and age of the tires. I also do not recall ever finding the DOT provided.
With all the repeated stories on this brand I would have thought it would be easy to get the facts but since there is only a single complaint filed with NHTSA and in that complaint there is no DOT info or tire size and the design is an "FT" and the person filing the complaint said the tires were made by General Tire Co. so that single complaint is very suspect and of little help in trying to look at facts.
If you owned Mission brand tires and had good luck or bad please PM me with whatever data you can. I really do not want to try and write an article based on rumor and hear say information.
Thanks for your support.
Doubt you will get many truthful answers on the actual loads....very few actually weigh their RV. What you will get is a lot of "we don't travel heavey, or we were nowhere close to uor GVWR". Kinda nuddies the data.
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skipnchar
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Primary reason for most ST tire failures is the lateral forces applied when cornering with a tandem axle trailer. Neither axle is a steering axle so the trailer must pivot to turn and it cannot pivot on two points at once without applying tremendous side wall forces which leads to tire failure. Back into a jackknife position with any tandem axle trailer then get out and stand behind and look at the tires and you'll clearly SEE this lateral stress. Same thing happens at speed and on lesser turns but to a lesser degree.
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skipnchar wrote:Primary reason for most ST tire failures is the lateral forces applied when cornering with a tandem axle trailer. Neither axle is a steering axle so the trailer must pivot to turn and it cannot pivot on two points at once without applying tremendous side wall forces which leads to tire failure. Back into a jackknife position with any tandem axle trailer then get out and stand behind and look at the tires and you'll clearly SEE this lateral stress. Same thing happens at speed and on lesser turns but to a lesser degree.
Not sniping here, just trying to understand. These same forces act on any tire on a tandem or triple axle trailer so why does it cause failures on "ST" tires but not on "LT" or other type tires? Are the LT built to withstand the lateral loads. If so, why would they be built that way as their intended use is on light trucks which do not apply this type of load. I'm confused (as usual)
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