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Neighbor got home yesterday morning with quite a story to tell. BTW he left for a month in AZ. Anyhow he was going south on I5 near Redding, the highway was so rough he could only do 45MPH and ended up blowing two nearly new tires on his trailer. Coming back from AZ he got as far as Flagstaff and blew his turbo. $3000.00 later he was again on his way. Pulled in at 12:30 and went to bed. That was one costly trip. Not to mention the fuel bill. Just over 4000 miles in total.
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Yes, the freeways in California are rougher than they are in any other state, in my experience. Very sad. They used to be great, 30 years ago.
On the bright side, this is a great place if you are in the tire business!
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There are almost no nice secondary roads in the Palm Springs area.
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profdant139 wrote:Yes, the freeways in California are rougher than they are in any other state, in my experience. Very sad. They used to be great, 30 years ago.
On the bright side, this is a great place if you are in the tire business!
California did not build our Freeways to hold up to the millions of big rigs on the interstates. Take a look at the condition of the fast lane compared to the slow lane where most Big Rigs(and RVs)travel. 101 is the worst I have traveled. If you drive it regularly it will certainly cause damage. 
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porknbeanr wrote:profdant139 wrote:Yes, the freeways in California are rougher than they are in any other state, in my experience. Very sad. They used to be great, 30 years ago.
On the bright side, this is a great place if you are in the tire business!
California did not build our Freeways to hold up to the millions of big rigs on the interstates. Take a look at the condition of the fast lane compared to the slow lane where most Big Rigs(and RVs)travel. 101 is the worst I have traveled. If you drive it regularly it will certainly cause damage.
hehe Well they should have, Im sure they are collecting the revenue for it. Little bit surprised myself, I-5 used to be a very good road.
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I have oft commented on the horrid condition of I5 from LA to Woodland but I don't think the lousy design of the road was entirely the fault of CAL TRANS. If I remember right all states were under pressure from the Feds to build the interstate system and the foreward thinking Federal Administration set the standards and did not consider indiviual states but set a nationwide standard which seems to be working in many places in the country. It did not work in California and the administrations in CA did not make the changes to the standard plans that were determined to be necessary and then one administration cut off all construction and maintenance of highways in CA. CAL TRANS has never recovered from that fiasco. Another problem is the large number of semi autonimous Engineering Districts in CA. They have great leeway in setting design standards instead of having one that is adequate for the heavy traffic on I5 being used throughout CA.
The current administration didn't learn from earlier mistakes and is now pushing another poorly designed transportation plan(bullet train) and basically ignoring maintaining and expanding the highway system. We must be green at all cost as illustrated by our fall from the sixth largest economy in the world to eight.
I could point out several states who are having the same problems that CA is having but it would do no good and just encourages more bashing of CA.
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sbishop wrote:I have oft commented on the horrid condition of I5 from LA to Woodland but I don't think the lousy design of the road was entirely the fault of CAL TRANS. If I remember right all states were under pressure from the Feds to build the interstate system and the foreward thinking Federal Administration set the standards and did not consider indiviual states but set a nationwide standard which seems to be working in many places in the country.
Interesting. I was a young engineer right out of school in 1964 and working for the WA State Highway Department (as it was called then). I had some design and inspection authority for parts of Interstate 405 and the I-520 approaches to the (then) new floating bridge.
My recollection of the design standards were that they were all from California which started their build-out of the Interstate system earlier than we did. One weird result was a large number of "spiral" (changing radius) curves typically placed at the beginnings and ends of "fixed radius" curves. I had been told my my chief engineer that these were "from California".
I don't recall thinking that the "designs" were faulty though. I suspect that the problem is more one of maintenance than design. I doubt that, at this point in time, much of the original design is left. Certainly the highways in WA have mostly been re-built to withstand the heavier loads and higher spans.
Withstanding studded tires, however, is a far different story!
The last time I was near LA was coming home from our Christmas vacation towing our 21-foot Streamline trailer over an I-5 riddled with huge potholes and cracks. Downright scary. If CA built them wrong then we are not far behind.
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Political issues aside, CA I-5 is horrible, particularly the southern half. I feel sorry for Californians who have to drive it every day.
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I-5 is truly in horrible condition. I can always tell when I am in Oregon by the great roads.
I have noticed that the area under the overpasses is particularly bad and I try to move to the left when approaching them. Does anyone know why these areas are in such poor shape when compared to the awful state of the rest of the road?
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not only the freeways in Calif, but the side roads aren't much better. I came down 93 in eastern Calif and it looks like they just paved the road and it already had spots that were coming apart and as usual, no passing lanes. I always think that Calif hires third grade drop outs to do their engineering for them.
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