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Posted: 04/08/12 02:14pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Friend of mine had a dead battery so he pulled it out and hooked it to a charger and trickle charged it for the weekend. Then put it back in.

Had all the same things you have going on. I went over to look at it and everything was hooked up right.

He hooked the charger to the battery backwards and totally reversed it.





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I tell people to get two cans of paint, They can be Testor's Brand model paint, or nail polish or small (Again Testor's) spray paint.

With the batteries PROPERLY installed on the wires that run off to somewhere else (not to another battery) from the positive side.. RED

and (optionally) on the negative side.. Black


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What is truly different here is that you are willing to admit that you made a mistake. I didn't hear lame excuses or see pointing fingers.

You (hopefully) blew the fuse(s) in the converter. You should also investigate most everything more technologic than an incandescent light bulb. Most good things are protected from reverse polarity, but this often means that they pop in internal and easily replaceable fuse. Obviously, your house batteries are good enough to run the slide.

I do so hope that the damage is trivial.
After all, I've never done anything that stupid - Today.
And I've only bolted the flat tire back on the car once.

I (used to) do a lot of work on boat electrics. I see two or three of these a season. I do my best in the systems that I build or re-work to make this hard to do. But, the quote doesn't even fit "Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious. ~Mark Twain" because it most likely a case of a simple oversight.

This is not at all like the owner of a new boat that put in one of two batteries backward and even had to get a different bolt because the connector would not fit on the wrong terminal. When it arced as he connected it, he turned off the battery switch (which should have been off) and connected it. When he set the switch to BOTH, both batteries exploded. He and the vessel survived with help from friends, but there are still funny spots where the acid ate things.

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wa8yxm wrote:

I tell people to get two cans of paint, They can be Testor's Brand model paint, or nail polish or small (Again Testor's) spray paint.

With the batteries PROPERLY installed on the wires that run off to somewhere else (not to another battery) from the positive side.. RED

and (optionally) on the negative side.. Black


I did one better. The positive cable on my bus has a BIG plastic tag with "+" on it in red. The negative cable has a tag with "G" on it in green.


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There might have been a few more clues that the battery was hooked up backwards. Did all the lights only cast shadows? Did the waterpump suck?

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I did that once. My first clue was after driving down the road backwards for a hunnert miles. Second clue was all the programs on my radio were in French.

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Posted: 04/09/12 05:56am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Once I realized there was a real problem, it took me less than a second (igno-second) to realize what I had done.

You know, as far as I can tell, there appears to be no problems. Converter seems to operate normally. I will check again for blown converter fuses. But I saw no bad fuses at first glance.

I am thinking I might be lucky, because before installing the battery in the trailer, I put it on my battery charger for a few days. So it did have a good full charge, before installation. And while installed, it really had very little power draw to pull it down. So maybe it had no reason to call for a charge. Therefore, maybe that is why no fuses seem to be blown. Although I did have the system connected in to the house 110V. But...when it comes to luck....I'm never lucky. So I'll need to check further. I guess I was lucky that I discovered the problem before connecting up to my truck 7 prong plug.

The funny thing is, I remember checking to make sure the white wire was connected to ground on the trailer frame. Since this is the first time to re-install battery on this new trailer. Then after doing that, I reminded myself that the system was negative ground. Then proceeded to install the battery backwards.

I hope this is can serve as a reminder to others. Pay attention. And check your work.

* This post was edited 04/09/12 06:04am by Vulcaneer *


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Posted: 05/18/12 06:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

OK...so we're getting ready to go away over the weekend. Get the trailer ready. No Power... NOTHING...Dead battery...and then some.

Come to find out. when I installed the battery incorrectly, it blew 40A fuses in the separate sub-converter. So the battery eventually ran down from not charging for a month or so. The manual did address the problem. With very good explanation. But then the problem was to find the separate sub-converter. Traced wires and found it...after a while. Switched out the 40A fuses and back to charging the battery again...Life is good.

The converter manufacturer is "World Friendly llc". According to the manufacturer, they install fuses to protect all circuits against installing the battery with reversed polarity. So I guess there are other dopes out there like me. And I am not the first. Two 40 Amp fuses. Bought a box of 5 for $2.49 at NAPA.

* This post was edited 05/19/12 07:01am by Vulcaneer *

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I never thought that would work without ruining the converter.

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