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EricGT

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Posted: 04/08/12 11:52am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Our Class C has a 3500# maximum tow rating.
I was thinking of getting a JEEP Wrangler to tow behind but am now thinking the JEEP would be too heavy.
What is the easiest, most affordable means to tow a vehicle and is the 3500# max the most I can tow even if the vehicle is flat towed?

At 6'4" I'm not really into buzzing around town in a Smart Car or really any compact for that matter.


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I just posted this on another forum...

fordsooperdooty wrote:

Reducing the weight of what you tow makes a difference on your fuel mileage..even waxing the rig helps smooth the air flow for a slight increase. Proper tire pressure and towing a lower profile vehicle will also contribute...however slightly. Thats why you see big rigs now with aerodynamic farings under the trailers...smooth air flow. Even a 2 or 3% increase in mileage can add up to thousands
in savings.

We are considering a Class A or B+ next time we buy, and have done research on the ideal tow vehicle...smaller, lighter, reliable and something that gets good mileage itself too.

We had bought a couple of new KIA's recently for wife and I, a Sorento SUV and a Forte sedan...and my Daughter got a KIA Soul. It turns out that all the newer KIA's with manual transmissions can be TOAD 4 down without restrictions of speed or distance with no modifications...and the Soul seats 5, runs $14,000.00 base brand new, good prices when used, has huge cargo space and weighs just 2615 lbs and with the 6 speed manual gets 32 mpg. AND it's not a tiny "clown car", it's roomy, lots of head and leg room too, 40.2" head and 42.1 leg... more than a Cadillac CTS!

If you prefer a sedan, the RIO sedan gets 40 mpg with a 6 speed @ 2410 lbs. Again roomy, lots of head and leg room.

Just install a tow bar. Good quality cars, 5 star safety ratings, great mileage, well made, comfortable, nice prices and a 100,000 mile warranty!



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Posted: 04/08/12 12:46pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What's the curb weight of the vehicle that you want to flat tow? It's not like there's any tongue weight. The vehicle could butt right up against the max weight - and as long as it has really good brakes working in concert with your MH then you're OK.

BTW, this is over at the escapee's forum (linky). Emphasis added by me:
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My wife and I each drive a smart ForTwo now...hers is the standard Passion with the panoramic roof, and mine is a Passion that happens to have the "optional" hardtop. The hardtop (same as what the Pure comes with as the standard roof) has more overhead clearance than the panoramic roof. I have some really tall friends...one is 6'7"...he left the seat set at the same degree of recline that I use...I'm an even 6', and when I got the car I weighed 330 lbs...and he still had room (his head wasn't touching the roof). I like the hardtop because I regularly wear a hat of some kind, and in my wife's car I find the hat bumps on the sliding sunscreen, whereas there's a couple more inches of room in the hardtop. I don't miss the see-through roof when I drive mine. In the summer I think the see-through roof is hotter too.

I dare you to sit in a smart car. I get stopped by people all the time - mostly at the grocery store - asking me how I can get all the bags in the car. I give them the tour. Each and every one is flummoxed at how much interior there actually is.

I traded in my Ford pickup for a smart - solely because it is 1800 lbs. It's great to tow, and yes, ...I miss my truck.


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Ford Focus would work well. My son hauls cars and is taller than you, I'll ask him what is easy to get in and out of that is light weight and towable. I was looking at a Scion Xb or that little Mazda van myself.


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Posted: 04/08/12 02:13pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If I were 6'4" I'd really try out a Wrangler to be sure it's the kind of vehicle I'd want to be jumping in and out of on a regular basis.

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" Would you tow with a 3500# max rating Class C?"

I do almost every time I head out.
I even use one of those horrible fixed-arm adjustable width $145 cheap junk towbars! (I have never had any trouble with it. NEVER!) I even hook it to the motorhome by myself! "THEY" (the naysayers) say it can't be done, but I do it frequently.
I had a well-qualified welder reinforce the hitch on the Tioga, and nothing has broken or bent.
I even built a home-made 41 inch long extension to tow the Jeep behind the truck when I had an 11.5 foot camper on it. "THEY" (the naysayers, again) said that couldn't be done, also. But it worked.
It is truly amazing, the number of things that "THEY" say can't be done, that HAVE been done, and ARE being done, frequently and successfully.


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I would need something that hauls 2 adults and 2 kids. I never thought about that little Scion box van. They are kinda neat imo.
I merely said a Wrangler because it would be a vehicle I would also not mind driving when at home as a summer toy.
We currently have a G8, Avalanche, and Enclave all of which are too heavy to tow with my 3500# limit.
Having a toad would really allow us to get out and enjoy our surroundings more and not have to cater so much to what public transportation or public parking allows.

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EricGT,
Asked my son what small cars he can fit in comfortably, and he said the VW beetle and the Mini Cooper. He is taller than you. He did not tell me if he has trouble getting inside one of them, only that they have lots of room once inside. Can't be to bad cause he is often on the top trailer deck when getting into one. I know both of these, with manual transmissions, are towed by some around here, but I don't think they are on the "manufacturer approved" dingy list. And I don't know what they weight, but that is easly researched.

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I towed my Honda CRV over 30,000 km with my last RV - a Triple E Regency on a Ford E450 with a Powerstroke Diesel - which had a 3500# limit. I tried to keep things out of the TOAD to keep it as light as possible - even towing with a mostly empty fuel tank whenever possible.

3400+ lbs. plus 4 bikes probably took us right to the limit, if not a little over. Took it easy and suffered no ill effects.

With our new rig it just doesn't matter...one of the reasons we bought it.


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gotsmart wrote:

What's the curb weight of the vehicle that you want to flat tow? It's not like there's any tongue weight. The vehicle could butt right up against the max weight - and as long as it has really good brakes working in concert with your MH then you're OK.

BTW, this is over at the escapee's forum (linky). Emphasis added by me:
Quote:

My wife and I each drive a smart ForTwo now...hers is the standard Passion with the panoramic roof, and mine is a Passion that happens to have the "optional" hardtop. The hardtop (same as what the Pure comes with as the standard roof) has more overhead clearance than the panoramic roof. I have some really tall friends...one is 6'7"...he left the seat set at the same degree of recline that I use...I'm an even 6', and when I got the car I weighed 330 lbs...and he still had room (his head wasn't touching the roof). I like the hardtop because I regularly wear a hat of some kind, and in my wife's car I find the hat bumps on the sliding sunscreen, whereas there's a couple more inches of room in the hardtop. I don't miss the see-through roof when I drive mine. In the summer I think the see-through roof is hotter too.

I dare you to sit in a smart car. I get stopped by people all the time - mostly at the grocery store - asking me how I can get all the bags in the car. I give them the tour. Each and every one is flummoxed at how much interior there actually is.

I traded in my Ford pickup for a smart - solely because it is 1800 lbs. It's great to tow, and yes, ...I miss my truck.


Headroom? we don't need no stinking headroom.




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