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Posted: 04/09/12 02:30pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Note: The Transit line has nothing to do with the Transit Connect runabout.

I found out today that the old Econoline style van is going the way of the dodo next year. Instead, Ford will be using their Transit line of vans that are common in Europe over here in the US, and will be using similar names (T-250, T-350, T-450, T-550) for them.

Engine-wise, they will be using turbo diesels, as well as an EcoBoost twin-turbo gasser similar to the F-150.

Looks, they have a very similar shape to the Sprinter.

Supposedly, they will have a 4WD/AWD option, which the Sprinter offers in Europe, but not in the US.

Price-wise, since these will be made in a US factory, the "chicken tax" is not an issue.

I wonder how this will change things for class B makers. I know that Ford dealers are a lot more common than Mercedes/Freightliner places, and I'm going to assume that parts for these will be a lot more widely available once this model starts selling.

I hope that this van makes a good class B platform. It supposedly has more usable space than the existing Econolines, has competitive MPG, and has been sold in most of the world for decades.

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Posted: 04/09/12 02:35pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

E series is staying in production at least until 2018.

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I THINK that just the chassis cabs are staying in production, and the E-vans as we know them are history. The Transit has exciting possibilities and should give the Sprinter some competition. And will hopefully be more attractive than the Nissan High Roof van.

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Posted: 04/09/12 03:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No, the E Van is staying put --- both cargo and passenger version.

First to phase out is passenger, cargo not for a loooong time.

Think somewhere they promised availability to at least 2018.


The fact is, they cannot phase it out --- too many moving parts outside of Ford cannot change over to the Transit.

If they have to change, they will move to GM.

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Posted: 04/09/12 04:51pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

its amazing all these different opinions I have read just about every scenario at diferent websites about how long the e-series will last.


the most prevalent opinion. chassis cabs and e-350 will stay for a long period of time.

e-150 and e-250 out relativly quick when t-series starts

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Posted: 04/09/12 05:14pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

E 150 and 250 phase out is driven by several issues:

- direct competition with the Transit

- few commercial buyers.

E 350 is the workhorse of the trade --- all the ones that haul a lot of stuff, have a lot of gear inside, etc.


Very hard to phase out without losing customers.



Ford has systematically shot itself in the foot with the discontinuation of vehicles for which they owned the market:

- Crown Vic phaseout --- police rear drive went to the GM

- Taxi lost to Nissan NV in NYC


- E 350 diesel ambulance went to GM



Transit is good for your flower delivery van, local only, light loads, light duty, and save fuel.

That helps Ford meet CAFE

* This post was edited 04/09/12 05:22pm by NewsW *

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NewsW wrote:

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Transit is good for your flower delivery van, local only, light loads, light duty, and save fuel.

That helps Ford meet CAFE


I think you're thinking of the Transit Connect, not the Transit. They're two very different vehicles.


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Posted: 04/09/12 05:49pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No, the Transit Connect competes with the Chrysler minivan.

It is made in Turkey, imported with rear seats which are trashed.

Good for Turkeys.

The Transit T150 is suppose to replace the E150.

It is the E350s that is the hard market to crack -- trades are not about to change.

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This is what Wikipedia says:

Ford intends to replace the E-Series by 2014 with a global version of the fourth generation Transit platform developed by Ford of Europe. The Transit has been the E-Series' equivalent in Europe since 1965 and competes with the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter.

It is not known if the North American versions of the Transit will be equipped with turbodiesel power which makes up the vast majority of European sales. In order to introduce American buyers to Ford's Euro-vans, the company began importing the mechanically unrelated Transit Connect range for the 2010 model year.[10]

In 2011, the United Auto Workers confirmed the existence of a North American version of the Transit as the future product plans for the Ford Kansas City Assembly Plant were revealed. In late September 2011, Ford registered trademarks for Ford T-250, T-350, T-450, and T-550; the T-Series name will likely be used both as a continuation of the E-Series and to avoid similarity with the smaller Transit Connect.[11]

Ford E-Series


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Posted: 04/09/12 06:46pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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The American version of the Transit that will eventually replace the E-series and be produced at Ford's plant in Claycomo, Mo. We say eventually, because Ford plans to sell both for awhile, probably to let buyers get used to the idea that the replacement is far more practical and fuel-efficient.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/03/ford-unveils-euro-version-of-next-e-series-van-for-us/1#.T4OC0Z_h9WM


What if demand for the Transit fail to materialize?


No way most trades are giving up their vans.

If they all switch to GM... the Transit gambit is toast.

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