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BenK

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Posted: 04/11/12 02:10pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This has been asked and discussed numerous times and here is just one thread below

There are many who advise that it is okay to use WD hitches on monocoque (unibody),
but I am not one of them. I know how a monocoque is designed and built.

The decision is yours (OP) to use a WD or not hitch

WD hitches and unibody

Here is a link to a Honda Pilot glove box manual...you need to click on the 'next page'
to scroll through it

Honda Pilot glove box manual on Towing

and to be fair, here is my 'to be fair' post that my Odyssey says it's ok to
use a WD Hitch system (Honda Pilot is derived from the Odyssey...they use the
same platform)

BenK wrote:

To be fair, just went and checked my Odyssey's glove box manual that I've captured
on my Internet photo account.

It does say okay to use a WD hitch, but elsewhere it limits the weight of the
max trailer factored by the passenger loading

Here they are:


MTWR factored by passenger loading


GCWR



WD hitch


















U-Haul receiver label





Finally, you then need to understand how the various ratings work and that they
are in concert. Most take any one of those ratings out of context (absolute)
and is wrong when one or more of the other components/ratings/etc are at their
limits

This diagram will help you see the whole picture




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Posted: 04/11/12 02:18pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tongue weight rating is 190lbs.

Tongue weight MUST be 10-15% of the entire trailer's weight in order to ensure a stable sway-free tow.

190lbs on a 3800lb trailer is only 5%. A travel trailer set up like that will be VERY dangerous on the road.

Go out and LOOK at the hitch on your vehicle. There will be a sticker or imprint somewhere on the hitch that indicates its capacity. Please report back with what you find.


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Posted: 04/11/12 02:45pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thank you for the link to the other thread about unibody construction & WD hitches. And the further explanations.

Sticker by hitch says "4500 max trailer wt; 450 max tongue wt"

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Posted: 04/11/12 02:51pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

4monkeys wrote:

Dry weight trailer 2,300.
We don't have propane or battery. There is a wet bath, fresh water tank holds 20.


Not dry weight.

Dry HITCH weight. That's the amount of weight that will be placed directly on the back axle of your SUV. There is a weight restriction, and since you can't use a WDS, you are likely to approach it quickly.


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Posted: 04/11/12 02:56pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

selectsplat, I don't see any reference to dry hitch weight in Honda Pilot owner's manual or the RV info I currently have...where would I find that info?

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Posted: 04/11/12 02:59pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mkirsch wrote:

Go out and LOOK at the hitch on your vehicle. There will be a sticker or imprint somewhere on the hitch that indicates its capacity. Please report back with what you find.



There would be a disclaimer on the hitch saying to look at the owners manual for actual vehicle capacities. Look at the picture posted above. Hitch capacity does not always equal vehicle capacity.
Don’t exceed the lower of the 2 ratings.


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Posted: 04/12/12 03:17pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

According to the towing guidelines in the Honda owners manual, you can have between 100 pounds and 450 pounds of tongue weight on a 2010 Pilot ( I could not find a 2011 manual online )
See page 438 of the manual:

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/ZA1010/ZA1010OM.pdf

EDIT: Actually it could be as little as zero pounds, if you have eight passengers in the vehicle,

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