Yea, the wife like the U-shape. I think there might be more storage in the C. I'm financing, but only a little bit. I have a rainy day level in my savings I don't like to go below.
Good that you're doing your homework before actually parting with $$. Absolutely agree that you need to get a price from RVDirect. Unless there has been a change, RVWholesalers does not sell Jayco. They do sell the ROO and you could certainly get a price from them on the 17 just for comparison. Have you looked at a ROO? I will say that we have an '07 23SS and have had no complaints. Might also be worth some time online. RVWholesalers will email you a price and it really is the price - no trades, no haggling, no games. If you are interested in the Equalizer and Prodigy set up, they can handle that for you at a good price. From what has been said here, RVDirect is very reputable also. If you have "that feeling" in the pit of your stomach it sounds like you need to do some more homework. Since no money has changed hands, you can certainly change your mind. Believe, even if you had given them a deposit, you have something like 2 or 3 days to cancel with "Buyers Remorse" and they have to return the deposit. Since you're not getting a whole lot for your trade, I'd be inclined to sell it yourself and maybe pick up a bit more. Hope this will all work out for you - hybrids are wonderful and know you'll make lots of happy memories.
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We are coming from a PUP and just bought a used HTT (2004 Starcraft Travelstar 23SRG).
We looked at dealers, we looked at new, we looked at used at dealers and private parties.
We found we really liked the floor plan, rear garage, and price of this one- even though we could have gotten a very comparable one from a closer dealer.
Here's what DW and I said. Once we make the deal, we are content. I know some will pay less, some will pay more, and there is always a buddy who was practically giving one away or fell into a deal
But if you find what you want for a price you can live with, consider yourself blessed and start planning your first trip!
Of course, negotiate your best deal, but we don't quibble over the last dime and there is something to be said for having the final deal and delivery DONE
I talked to the manager that did the numbers this morning. I'm relieved at least with how he's doing business. If I'm not comfortable he does not want to complete the deal. I have a phone quote without trade that beats his trade price. He said he could try and get owner to give me discount, but is concerned they have too much into the unit we are looking at.
tsduke03 wrote: I talked to the manager that did the numbers this morning. I'm relieved at least with how he's doing business. If I'm not comfortable he does not want to complete the deal. I have a phone quote without trade that beats his trade price. He said he could try and get owner to give me discount, but is concerned they have too much into the unit we are looking at.
"they have to much into it" Thats every sales guys line when you try and beat them up on price. But like others have said sell your popup local your self. Low price popups sell like hotcakes in the spring. They make great starter units for young folks just starting out camping. If you where closer I would buy it from you and fix the few things that need fixed and then resale it for a profit. I have done this with popups before and never had one that I could not sell.
tsduke03 wrote: I talked to the manager that did the numbers this morning. I'm relieved at least with how he's doing business. If I'm not comfortable he does not want to complete the deal. I have a phone quote without trade that beats his trade price. He said he could try and get owner to give me discount, but is concerned they have too much into the unit we are looking at.
I looked at a brand new 19' Roo over lunch today. I didn't like I how could feel the transition from camper to fold out under the mattress. Felt like the camper part sat higher than the folder out part.
Chuck_S wrote: "Average retail" (NADA) is a scam. Really. NADA is used by dealers to give you a "deal." And it's based on original MSRP which no one should pay for a camper. High volume dealers sell campers for 33% less than MSRP and still make money -- as can any dealer.
-- Chuck
I'm assuming that 33% is talking new so how does one judge used pricing to be fair or not then?
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Chuck_S wrote: "Average retail" (NADA) is a scam. Really. NADA is used by dealers to give you a "deal." And it's based on original MSRP which no one should pay for a camper. High volume dealers sell campers for 33% less than MSRP and still make money -- as can any dealer.
-- Chuck
I'm assume that 33% is talking new so how does one judge used pricing to be fair or not then?
Just my opinion...
Our recent purchase was about $800 over the "High Avg Price" listed at NADA. We considered the camper to be in much better condition than an average of all the recently reported campers of this model/yr, the seller included a bunch of camping extras (blue tote, WDH hitch, sway bar, etc), and took several hours with us going over *everything*, including setting it up, taking it down, adjusting the hitch, etc.
We drove together to AAA to xfer the title, then to his bank to deposit the bank issues money orders, and were planning on sharing dinner but had to get back on the road.
Except for the rear cargo door (that we are dealing with now), we are very satisfied.
My DW and I agreed it was better to deal with a private owner who told us everything he could about the camper than a dealer who just took in a trade and didn't know anything about the used camper.
This may not be right for everyone, but it was just the ticket for us.
NADA is a nice guideline, but listed our camper at $21k retail new. I saw 2010 at "retail" dealer where we looked (at dozens of different models) and it was something like $15k, so probably 13k-14k.
We picked the floorplan we liked the most, had all the items on our 'must have' list, and was in the best condition we could find.
We just spent our 2nd overnight in it last night in the backyard, trying out all the 'stuff' and figuring out how/where to store our items and what we will want to add to it before our first away trip.
I've shared all this with you, even if it is against the 'absolute bottom dollar' grain to help you focus on getting a good deal and being satisfied with the deal. Nothing worse than buyer's remorse after the sale.
BTW, we self-financed at 1.99% for 2 yrs with a credit card deal on a card we never use. That really gave us the "do it now" incentive rather than waiting a few months, allowing us to enjoy it THIS camping season. (Tax return season always brings out these deals, just don't 'overdue' it )
DiskDoctr wrote: We are coming from a PUP and just bought a used HTT (2004 Starcraft Travelstar 23SRG).
We looked at dealers, we looked at new, we looked at used at dealers and private parties.
We found we really liked the floor plan, rear garage, and price of this one- even though we could have gotten a very comparable one from a closer dealer.
Here's what DW and I said. Once we make the deal, we are content. I know some will pay less, some will pay more, and there is always a buddy who was practically giving one away or fell into a deal
But if you find what you want for a price you can live with, consider yourself blessed and start planning your first trip!
Of course, negotiate your best deal, but we don't quibble over the last dime and there is something to be said for having the final deal and delivery DONE
Good luck and enjoy whatever you choose!
- JC
You have a great point about not getting to worked over price. I've seen the same exact models and years priced all over the board. I just want one priced close to avg retail.
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"Average retail" (NADA) is a scam. Really. NADA is used by dealers to give you a "deal." And it's based on original MSRP which no one should pay for a camper. High volume dealers sell campers for 33% less than MSRP and still make money -- as can any dealer.
-- Chuck
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