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The general knowledge is that my F-150 just will not do more than pull a lawnmower around...So......


If I were to get into a used F-250, with the right towing package, rear end, etc , would it be best to do one of two things.

1) Haul my 04 Wide Glide Harley(700 lbs) in the truck, and pull a smaller camper...Or

2) Go right into a descent used Toy hauler


Now then...very generic question....

Anything you can suggest as far as a 3/4 ton to get? rear ends, axle length, etc for these purposes ?

And what weights might I expect to be able to pull as far as a toy hauler(lenght)

This forum has been extremely helpful to this newbie idiot...I am thankful for everyones input...

I am needing to learn, and this is a great place to gain well needed knowledge ...


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Yea, get a 1 ton. Ford does not have a good reputation for diesel motors, so if you are insistent on a Ford stick with gas motors. Stay as small as you are comfortable living in and that will haul your bike. With a gas motor except maybe the V10 weight will be your biggest concern. 3.55,3.73 rear end ratios are good compromises between towing and economy.


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five'er wrote:

If you don't have a trailer or a truck.. Go trailer shopping and find the one you MUST have.. Then buy the truck that will pull that one and will ALSO pull the bigger one you think you'd like to buy "maybe one day"



Shhhhh...Don't let my wife hear that....

I think that any ton , Gas for me, is what i will get...That will allow me to upgrade to a 5er if needed one day ...But for expense sake now go the used toy hauler route pull behind...

Shopping with the wife is one expensive adventure...ughhhhhhhh


Thanks...not a bad way to start....

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First of all your F150 is really a good hauler as long as its in the wieght ratings. You could pull a small toy hauler most likely if you wanted to depending on the wieght. If you go the 3/4 ton route, its really up to you whether you want gas or diesel. Just read past alot of the chest pounding my truck is better then yours from some that you encounter. Although some guys are really just kidding arounding so take it for what it is. Anyway, look for the trailer that your really like and what your pocketbook can handle then match the truck to that camper. Always go bigger if you can to give you more then enough for a bigger camper in the future if possible. Again gas or diesel is very much a personel thing so get what is best suited for your liking, both will do a great job.


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donn0128 wrote:

Yea, get a 1 ton. Ford does not have a good reputation for diesel motors, so if you are insistent on a Ford stick with gas motors. Stay as small as you are comfortable living in and that will haul your bike. With a gas motor except maybe the V10 weight will be your biggest concern. 3.55,3.73 rear end ratios are good compromises between towing and economy.




Thanks for that....

I have been searching for a ton , but come up empty so far...

gas is for me, as i don't care for all the maintance a diesel requires....

Def thinking a side entry ramp is best as far as being accessable once we arrive....


thanks for the gear info as well....

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If you don't have a trailer or a truck.. Go trailer shopping and find the one you MUST have.. Then buy the truck that will pull that one and will ALSO pull the bigger one you think you'd like to buy "maybe one day"

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gas is for me, as i don't care for all the maintance a diesel requires....


That is really false information. Other than taking 12 quarts of oil the maintenance on my Cummins is no worse than on any truck. I still have a fuel filter, an oil filter and an air filter that need changing, still have belts that need looking after. What I don't have are spark plugs, plug wires, some form of spark distribution that can fail at the most inopportune time. Yes, diesel fuel is a bit more expensive, but I also get 11.5 MPH towing my 13,500 pound fiver whereas if I had a V10 it would probably be 6MPG if I was lucky. Your choice, but I would not discount a good diesel if one camp up. And there will be far more of them on the lots than 1 ton V10's.



Intresting...You know...I am reading and looking at some 3/4 and ton diesels, and honestly, the prices vs milage are really great......

i am starting to think I may have been wrong...diesels do out pull and last longer it seems, and can be had a great prices used...

I just know nothing about purchasing a used diesel...No experience there at all.

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gas is for me, as i don't care for all the maintance a diesel requires....


That is really false information. Other than taking 12 quarts of oil the maintenance on my Cummins is no worse than on any truck. I still have a fuel filter, an oil filter and an air filter that need changing, still have belts that need looking after. What I don't have are spark plugs, plug wires, some form of spark distribution that can fail at the most inopportune time. Yes, diesel fuel is a bit more expensive, but I also get 11.5 MPH towing my 13,500 pound fiver whereas if I had a V10 it would probably be 6MPG if I was lucky. Your choice, but I would not discount a good diesel if one camp up. And there will be far more of them on the lots than 1 ton V10's.

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five'er wrote:

If you don't have a trailer or a truck.. Go trailer shopping and find the one you MUST have.. Then buy the truck that will pull that one and will ALSO pull the bigger one you think you'd like to buy "maybe one day"

Great advice. I learned the hard way...very costly.


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Toy hauler is nice, especially for a heavy HD bike. Not as high and built in ramp to drive into vs. the relatively high truck bed and removable ramps options. Significantly different in terms of convenience. But, toy haulers cost more in general, new and used. And you pay for that garage space with heavier weights and longer RVs.

Ford V10 or GM 8.1L are great towing engines. Trans and axle ratio really don't matter much unless you are into significant 5th wheel weight. Skip the 5.4L/6.0L gassers. The diesels are also great. Skip Ford's 6.0L, or learn enough about them to prevent the problems many are having. Their reputation has brought down used values compared to the Duramax and Cummins of similar conditions and age.


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